EVE General Discussion

I like the idea of micro isk sinks in empire, docking fees, gate fees.

We do get a free ride from empires for using their stuff.

Perhaps busy systems could charge more isk for docking and jumping due to congestion that would mean market hubs and incursion sites would charge more, as the empires milk the isk cow for funds.

Yep but not many people do that. I think a lot more people would pay if their ads appeared visually on the billboards and CQ screens, not just in a hidden window. And if their ads had greater functionality then just recruitment

good try, but thats not isk sink, merely a transfer. unless you buy all your ships and modules 100% from npcs

only if you fly cheap crap and insure them and have no slkills for expensive stuff.

Not sure Eve needs ISK sinks, so much as wealth sinks. Not all wealth is made of money, let's get that out of the way for starters.

Eve needs more stuff consumed, more things that players need to have, versus what players would like to have. More consumables, more minerals consumed in ship repair, module operations, PI building, more mins in ammo, etc etc. People on planets that need to be feed, housed and defended - more stuff sinks versus just more ISK sinks.

ISK, like just about everything else created in Eve from the faucets, is an expression of time. Not enough time is being consumed by things other than ISK faucet usage. If more inelastic demand can be created in a few areas, then more time will be consumed in generating those products versus time consumed in generating ISK.

I am not advocating time sinks, for those that misunderstand, I'm suggesting make things, other than ISK generation, more worth the time by creating more demand for those products versus reducing supply of those products.

Parts of the Eve economy are experiencing price decreases, another side is experiencing price increases. This is the imbalance that needs to be addressed more so than the ISK supply. The increasing supply of money merely sheds light upon the structural imbalance of the "stuff faucet" and "stuff sinks".

Biggest sink I can think of is:
If ship is destroyed as a result of you firing first (read: aggresses first) then insurance is voided.

But hate the idea of sink, would rather faucets were more tightly controlled/restricted. With ISK flowing as freely as it does, the sense of accomplishment when the last million for that upgrade to BS trickles in is gone and no amount of sinks can bring that feeling back ..

give me your extra monies and I promise to create vast amounts of salvage throughout new eden and keep Dodi ship builders in business

Unless you mean increasing the fee charged by Concord for war decs, discuss how war actually destroys ISK. War destroys material. War only destroys ISK if BPOs and other items only available for purchase from NPCs are destroyed (not captured) and then replaced.

No, no matter the cost of the ship, ships being destroyed are always ISK faucets (well… always up until Crucible, when it will become possible to lose a ship without creating ISK in the process).

…except that as history has shown, they don't, because it's not as self-balancing as that and because people are not willing to switch to other activities.

Most importantly, those other activities don't become more lucrative, because they suffer from limitations of scale that the ISK-generating activities don't quite adhere to. As a result, people rather flock to the activities that further inflates the ISK supply, since that's the only way to stay ahead of the curve.
…such as CCP's own economist, who is worried about how the ISK influx is not matched by a corresponding increase in materials generation and production.