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Bring me the head of a CFC titan pilot!

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Lucas Kell
Solitude Trading
S.N.O.T.
#1121 - 2014-08-18 18:49:29 UTC
PotatoOverdose wrote:
Lucas Kell wrote:
His latest seems to be failing to understand basic math and economic warfare. He seem to think that MoA and co can destroy the CFC by destroying their income, yet they have to throw away isk themselves to do so. They'd basically need to achieve a 99% isk ratio on trillions of isk a month. Anything less and they'd bankrupt themselves faster than they'd bankrupt us.

I think he must still be of the opinion that he earns more than the CFC Lol

It's good to see though that MoA have decided that the only way to stand a fighting chance is to form a coalition. Pretty much puts to bed all of those ideas that independent pirates can win.

I did not know pirates couldn't form coalitions to work together. Cool beans. Although most of my compatriots don't particularly think of themselves as pirates, I'm willing to run with it.
I've made the word you missed while reading stand out as much as I could.

PotatoOverdose wrote:
A sustained effort, to target isk generation and renters in particular, will directly result in fewer resources available to produce cfc titans. This will not kill the cfc, but it will weaken them significantly for the next sov fights involving mass titans. As a bonus, killing afktars and renter boats is hella fun, and beats shooting structures any day of the week. Not that we don't do the latter, but the former occurs much more often. Cool
It sure is an arms race, but that's not the only part of it. And the amount of damage you guys do in the long run is not enough to really make that much of a difference. Most of the null alliances have a pretty hefty backlog of titans. I can't remember the numbers CCP gave out at fanfest, but the number of titans in existence is rather high, and battles like B-R don't come along very often. Carry on though, like you say, it's fun and that's what the game is about.

The main point though is that Gevlon went on an on about how it's the independent pirates that can make a difference, that coalitions are nothing in comparison with their might! And like clockwork you guys form up into a coalition, start talking about taking sov and moons and setting up coalition income and lol, lol, lol.

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Lucas Kell
Solitude Trading
S.N.O.T.
#1122 - 2014-08-18 19:02:32 UTC
PotatoOverdose wrote:
That's all very well and good, but any publicity is good publicity, as the tired cliche goes. You've spent years giving him a soapbox to stand on. He now has it, built by the tireless cfc posters telling anyone that would listen of the hilarious posts made by this particular individual.
You seem to miss he point. We don't care how much publicity he gets. Goons have basically run their entire existence based on the principle that everyone in the game should hate them. If everyone in the world wants to head over to his blog every single day and watch him wringing literally thousands of posts, wasting his entire real life for a silly in game vendetta, it's of no consequence.

PotatoOverdose wrote:
Interesting. And from whom, I wonder, will the followers of this particular goblin choose to rent? Smile
I imagine the same person they would have rented off of had they not read his blog, but who really cares?

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Voyager Arran
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#1123 - 2014-08-19 00:04:14 UTC
PotatoOverdose wrote:
Lucas Kell wrote:
PotatoOverdose wrote:
It's kinda funny given that those same people are the only reason anyone knows about gevlon goblin.

Personally, I would never have heard about him if the goons didn't keep talking about him month after month, year after year. It's kinda funny how they disparage and deride him, yet they are single handedly responsible for making him eve-famous.
We like to share his spergy goodness with the world. It would be rude to keep it all to ourselves.

Mallak Azaria wrote:

We need him to become well-known & stick around for along time. The level of entertainment he provides is not easy to come by.

That's all very well and good, but any publicity is good publicity, as the tired cliche goes. You've spent years giving him a soapbox to stand on. He now has it, built by the tireless cfc posters telling anyone that would listen of the hilarious posts made by this particular individual.

Apparently, there are some people that take him seriously. Some few even in my own alliance, not the bulk admittedly, but they exist in moa and in the general population all the same.

So what does he say from the soap box you so kindly provided?

Trii Seo wrote:
Today's post reads more like an advertising campaign for nullsec rental.

"A new life awaits you in the nullsec colonies!" indeed... alright, cat's out of the bag - hands up who's been paying this guy under the table! Blink


Interesting. And from whom, I wonder, will the followers of this particular goblin choose to rent? Smile


I can't speak for everybody, but to me Gevlon is far more valuable as a source of entertainment than he is dangerous as a strategic threat. If interprets public mockery as a soapbox I definitely don't want him to step off.
Mallak Azaria
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#1124 - 2014-08-19 00:25:31 UTC
PotatoOverdose wrote:
You've spent years giving him a soapbox to stand on.


A little over a year at best. He didn't become good entertainment until he had his meltdown as a result of being told he couldn't join Goonwaffe.

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PotatoOverdose
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#1125 - 2014-08-19 07:01:17 UTC
Lucas Kell wrote:
I've made the word you missed while reading stand out as much as I could.

I be thinking you're using that word wrong, matey. A non-independant pirate is called a privateer. Same general purview as a pirate, but privateers typically worked for nation-states and trading companies. Historically, pirates and pirate organizations were, to the best of my knowledge, always considered "independent." Sort of implied in the definition.

I don't particularly disagree with the rest of your points though.
Lucas Kell wrote:
but who really cares?

That's kind if my point about this entire thread though. Some random dude said some things that don't quite make sense, meh. Happens all the time in eve. I guess I just remember a time when there was a higher level of quality in C&P topics - the socratic files, for example. But w/e, to each their own.
Lucas Kell
Solitude Trading
S.N.O.T.
#1126 - 2014-08-19 10:15:19 UTC
PotatoOverdose wrote:
I be thinking you're using that word wrong, matey. A non-independant pirate is called a privateer. Same general purview as a pirate, but privateers typically worked for nation-states and trading companies. Historically, pirates and pirate organizations were, to the best of my knowledge, always considered "independent." Sort of implied in the definition.
No argument here, it's Gevlon's wording I'm using. Regardless of what label you want to use the the point is the same.

PotatoOverdose wrote:
That's kind if my point about this entire thread though. Some random dude said some things that don't quite make sense, meh. Happens all the time in eve. I guess I just remember a time when there was a higher level of quality in C&P topics - the socratic files, for example. But w/e, to each their own.
lol, indeed. It is (or at least was, it's getting a bit stale now) rather entertaining to watch though, don't you think?

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Robert Sawyer
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#1127 - 2014-08-19 11:09:06 UTC
Did anybody bring that head yet?

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Alp Khan
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#1128 - 2014-08-19 14:09:56 UTC
I must confess that Gevlon is killing us. (We're dying from our own laughter here)
Retar Aveymone
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
#1129 - 2014-08-19 16:22:11 UTC
PotatoOverdose wrote:

That's all very well and good, but any publicity is good publicity, as the tired cliche goes. You've spent years giving him a soapbox to stand on. He now has it, built by the tireless cfc posters telling anyone that would listen of the hilarious posts made by this particular individual.

oh please don't throw us into the brier patch of every single one of our enemies being tarred by association with gevlon's lunacy and have him take credit for all of their successes and blame them for all of his failures
Trii Seo
Goonswarm Federation
#1130 - 2014-09-03 16:21:05 UTC
Why of course we built him a soapbox. Not just a soapbox - a podium and a big speaker system so that he can preach to more people. Then his plans fail and he has to come up with something else. Now, you may ask - why?

The answer is simple - we're an educated evil empire (Gevlon gets the 'evil' part right, even calls us an empire too.) and most of our members have studied, extensively, the Evil Overlord Handbook.

From said handbook, ยง109 reads:

"I will see to it that plucky young lads/lasses in strange clothes and with the accent of an outlander shall REGULARLY climb some monument in the main square of my capital and denounce me, claim to know the secret of my power, rally the masses to rebellion, etc. That way, the citizens will be jaded in case the real thing ever comes along."

When he inevitably finds the real way to topple our Legions of Terror and bring forth the downfall of our Emperor nobody will believe him - thinking it's just another zany thing he came up with on his grrr goons spree. Our plan - it is flawless!

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Gevlon Goblin
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#1131 - 2014-09-06 07:57:24 UTC
Trii Seo wrote:

"I will see to it that plucky young lads/lasses in strange clothes and with the accent of an outlander shall REGULARLY climb some monument in the main square of my capital and denounce me, claim to know the secret of my power, rally the masses to rebellion, etc. That way, the citizens will be jaded in case the real thing ever comes along."

When he inevitably finds the real way to topple our Legions of Terror and bring forth the downfall of our Emperor nobody will believe him - thinking it's just another zany thing he came up with on his grrr goons spree. Our plan - it is flawless!


Not really. Please note that the above refers to leaders, people who depend on other people following them. For them it's necessary to look reliable. If they fail too often, no one will care about them.

I on the other hand operate with money, and don't depend on anyone liking or respecting me. For example The Marmite Collective members might think I'm an idiot. They might also think that killing CFC in highsec in pointless. Yet they keep killing CFC in highsec, because I pay for the wars and they like killing people.

On Monday I'll announce a plan that - I believe - will lead to the downfall of CFC. But no one else need to believe it to participate. They just need to like kills and getting paid to participate.

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Pete Butcher
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#1132 - 2014-09-06 08:20:04 UTC
Gevlon Goblin wrote:
On Monday I'll announce a plan that - I believe - will lead to the downfall of CFC. But no one else need to believe it to participate. They just need to like kills and getting paid to participate.


Like all your previous plans that supposed to lead to the downfall of CFC, right? At least there's potential for some entertainment.

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Lucas Kell
Solitude Trading
S.N.O.T.
#1133 - 2014-09-06 09:03:42 UTC
Pete Butcher wrote:
Gevlon Goblin wrote:
On Monday I'll announce a plan that - I believe - will lead to the downfall of CFC. But no one else need to believe it to participate. They just need to like kills and getting paid to participate.


Like all your previous plans that supposed to lead to the downfall of CFC, right? At least there's potential for some entertainment.
Doubtful. This started to stop being amusing a while back. It's barely content anymore. It's a delusional guy spending his real life making graphs about a group he hates in a game that he doesn't particularly enjoy. Battlement are creating some content, but then Gevelon has nothing to do with Batlement, even if he claims otherwise.

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Pete Butcher
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#1134 - 2014-09-06 09:23:06 UTC
Lucas Kell wrote:
Pete Butcher wrote:
Gevlon Goblin wrote:
On Monday I'll announce a plan that - I believe - will lead to the downfall of CFC. But no one else need to believe it to participate. They just need to like kills and getting paid to participate.


Like all your previous plans that supposed to lead to the downfall of CFC, right? At least there's potential for some entertainment.
Doubtful. This started to stop being amusing a while back. It's barely content anymore. It's a delusional guy spending his real life making graphs about a group he hates in a game that he doesn't particularly enjoy. Battlement are creating some content, but then Gevelon has nothing to do with Batlement, even if he claims otherwise.


You got a point there. Maybe his new master plan will bring some fresh air into the topic, but looking at what he's posting lately, it does seem likely to be a bunch of graphs, which nobody reads, and nothing more. We just have to wait and see.

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Amyclas Amatin
SUNDERING
Goonswarm Federation
#1135 - 2014-09-06 14:10:41 UTC
Mittens help us, he is going to saturate space with cloaky campers instead of wardecs...

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#1136 - 2014-09-06 15:46:48 UTC
Gevlon Goblin wrote:
Yet they keep killing CFC in highsec, because I pay for the wars and they like killing people.
Confirming we like killing people for isks. Pirate

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OldWolf69
EVE-RO
Goonswarm Federation
#1137 - 2014-09-06 18:11:12 UTC
Tora Bushido wrote:
Gevlon Goblin wrote:
Yet they keep killing CFC in highsec, because I pay for the wars and they like killing people.
Confirming we like killing people for isks. Pirate

I'm really glad to see that isk goes to better hands. Keep it up gents. At least you boyz get bit richer. GG will stay irrelevant even if he pays you another 2 years of wars.
Mallak Azaria
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#1138 - 2014-09-07 12:02:50 UTC
Gevlon Goblin wrote:
On Monday I'll announce a plan that - I believe - will lead to the downfall of CFC. But no one else need to believe it to participate. They just need to like kills and getting paid to participate.


What is different about this plan from the last bunch of plans that didn't work?

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Kaarous Aldurald
Black Hydra Consortium.
#1139 - 2014-09-07 12:38:24 UTC
Mallak Azaria wrote:
Gevlon Goblin wrote:
On Monday I'll announce a plan that - I believe - will lead to the downfall of CFC. But no one else need to believe it to participate. They just need to like kills and getting paid to participate.


What is different about this plan from the last bunch of plans that didn't work?


Suuuuuuper geeenius!

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Mallak Azaria
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#1140 - 2014-09-07 16:17:04 UTC
Kaarous Aldurald wrote:
Mallak Azaria wrote:
Gevlon Goblin wrote:
On Monday I'll announce a plan that - I believe - will lead to the downfall of CFC. But no one else need to believe it to participate. They just need to like kills and getting paid to participate.


What is different about this plan from the last bunch of plans that didn't work?


Suuuuuuper geeenius!


I'm willing to bet it's something about ratters, since it's a well-known fact that Goons make all of their isk through ratting instead of other methods such as trading, reactions, PI, building spacewangs or running incursions in highsec.

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