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A message regarding vandalism of the EVE Universe Monument

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Cygnet Lythanea
World Welfare Works Association
#201 - 2014-05-08 23:36:29 UTC
James Amril-Kesh wrote:
Tavin Aikisen wrote:
Should have gone to the police. Can't believe all they got was a ban...

They may well have. CCP has not and will not provide information about legal actions taken against the individuals, merely the actions taken against their accounts.



Typically though the courts can and will announce cases being heard. Police tend to announce persons arrested.

It's not hard to keep an eat our for CCP accusing someone of vandalism before a judge.
Deacon Abox
Black Eagle5
#202 - 2014-05-09 00:13:29 UTC
CCP Falcon, I remember seeing a launcher link to a picture of the statue. But I don't remember any of the details. I did not know there were names on the statue. Maybe a link to information about the statue would be helpful.

The apprehension of, and consequences to, the perpetrators are almost secondary to me and I suppose others. More information about the damage and the repairs are more interesting tbh.

If there are other existing threads about all this, can you include some information about the statue and repairs for those of us who find the search function on these forums less than satisfactory? Sorry, to sound lazy, but I have dinner to make, duties to the family and pets atm tonight, etc. Thanks.Smile

CCP, there are off buttons for ship explosions, missile effects, turret effects, etc. "Immersion" does not seem to be harmed by those. So, [u]please[/u] give us a persisting off button for the jump gate and autoscan visuals.

Rain6637
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
#203 - 2014-05-09 00:30:59 UTC  |  Edited by: Rain6637
Xenuria
#204 - 2014-05-09 03:15:02 UTC
CCP Falcon wrote:
Xenuria wrote:
Doc Fury wrote:
What steps has CCP taken (or plans to take) to prevent future abuse/vandalism of the monument?

This is something I would also like to know. If something like this happened once than it can potentially happen again.


I also have a question, the people that got banned permanently from EvE; can I have their stuff?


We're obviously not going to reveal if, when or what we're going to do in terms of boosting security around the monument, but you can rest assured that we'll make sure that things are covered.

i'm still sick to my stomach that someone would have done this to be perfectly honest, and I'm glad that we were able to solve the situation.




This may sound strange but I completely understand the feeling you are experiencing. There have been times in my life where I was suddenly shocked and sickened by people doing repugnant stuff. It's a feeling that is born of "Cognitive Dissonance", basically a mental conflict. Your mentality that nobody could be so horrible as to do this thing is at odds with the realization that somebody has done this horrible thing. It's not a weakness on your part, it's how the human brain deals with things of this nature.

The best outcome/rationalization to come too is one that incorporates the factual information from both competing mentalities while also alleviating the stress associated with both. That feeling of nausea and tension in the chest area is something that will pass.

The only time you need to worry is when you don't feel anything at all, apathy is a slow but certain toxin.
These events set a good example and I will explain how.

Some people did something really bad and they faced the consequences. Across the political lines of space people of this community came together to fight a common enemy. I think this will highly discourage future acts such as this, seeing as how rapidly everybody started working to bring a resolution to this problem.

I keep telling people that this isn't about ME it's about US as a community.
James Amril-Kesh
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#205 - 2014-05-09 03:18:02 UTC
I think it's more fun to live with the assumption that all humans are shitheads. That way you're pleasantly surprised every time you go out in daylight without seeing someone get gunned down in the streets.

Enjoying the rain today? ;)

Xenuria
#206 - 2014-05-09 03:33:50 UTC
James Amril-Kesh wrote:
I think it's more fun to live with the assumption that all humans are shitheads. That way you're pleasantly surprised every time you go out in daylight without seeing someone get gunned down in the streets.


Not all humans are bad though. I would like to think that I am a good person not because of what I do but what I hope to do.
A rich person can give millions to charity and do so because they desire fame.
A poor person can spend a small amount of money feeding the hungry with nobody ever thanking them.


Who do you think is the better person?
James Amril-Kesh
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#207 - 2014-05-09 03:45:39 UTC
The person who doesn't ask questions like that.

Enjoying the rain today? ;)

Rain6637
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
#208 - 2014-05-09 08:12:59 UTC
Xenuria, you're nobody til somebody loves you, you're nobody til somebody cares.

Somebody cared about you and they got in a lot of trouble for it.

These days infamy is better anyway. You're the only person who can consider this a success, so live it up broski.

For Xenuria
Nalelmir Ahashion
Industrial Management and Engineering
Mouth Trumpet Cavalry
#209 - 2014-05-09 11:32:23 UTC
Higgs Foton
Mission And Mining Inc
#210 - 2014-05-09 13:45:23 UTC
Ehhhmm, i noticed something odd. The gaming press, at least the Dutch and Belgium ones, claim the Goonswarm Federation sticker and the erasing of the Xenuria name are done by the same people. As far as i understand these are two unrelated incidents in which the sticker is seen as good fun (since it apparently was removed without problem). Maybe someone from CCP might want to look into this before another shitstorm emerges.

Though this again confirms my notion that people from the press are incredibly stupid and never research their sources.
Shivanthar
#211 - 2014-05-09 14:52:10 UTC  |  Edited by: Shivanthar
Not only because my name is also on that monument, I feel deeply harrassed by those guys' actions against art. This is an attack to not only monument, but also to the all people whose name on that monument, to the CCP, to the art, to the craftsmanship. What in the world make you attack a monument like that? What was it that you try to establish?

Be a hardcore or casual player of any kind, by attacking to a meaningful monument, you have no humanity or respect inside you. No matter how you or your alliance is successful in the game, actions made while drunk is not an excuse, it may ease your punishment a bit, but you will be remembered as a bad people, as many other very bad people on this worlds history.

We all have differences here, but at best, we argue and may disagree with each other. Respect is another aspect, damaging is by all means you don't have on respect to the humanity. You've no respect to the world, I hope the action that CCP took against you will teach at least a bit of what world does to you when you go against them, be it an attacking to an art, a monument or another person.

Sorry for crappy English, feel extremely depressed and on rage...
P.S: Not giving out names is a good action.

_Half _the lies they tell about me **aren't **true.

Jarod Garamonde
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#212 - 2014-05-09 17:15:13 UTC
CCP Falcon wrote:

While the community has been justifiably outraged and a number of people have requested that we release the ingame identities of those who carried out the act, we feel that this would be contrary to our privacy policies. As such we will deal with this incident in line with our current policies, and the identities of those responsible will remain confidential.


If only the American news media would get this concept.
Don't make them famous. They should fade away in obscurity.
No recognition. No publicity. Let them just deal with the fact that they are rendered nameless as they are shunned.

They won't be missed.


And just in case nobody's asked yet, can I have their stuff?

That moment when you realize the crazy lady with all the cats was right...

    [#savethelance]
Jarod Garamonde
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#213 - 2014-05-09 17:17:21 UTC
Ralph King-Griffin wrote:
Doc Fury wrote:
What steps has CCP taken to prevent future abuse/vandalism of the monument?

Sniper.


He's a CCP employee, even. You'll never see him post here, but his name is "CCP Headshotdoublekill"....

That moment when you realize the crazy lady with all the cats was right...

    [#savethelance]
James Amril-Kesh
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#214 - 2014-05-09 17:22:59 UTC  |  Edited by: James Amril-Kesh
Jarod Garamonde wrote:
CCP Falcon wrote:

While the community has been justifiably outraged and a number of people have requested that we release the ingame identities of those who carried out the act, we feel that this would be contrary to our privacy policies. As such we will deal with this incident in line with our current policies, and the identities of those responsible will remain confidential.


If only the American news media would get this concept.

They understand the concept. They choose to ignore it because the media is a business and money is the deciding factor. They get money from media frenzies. And you get media frenzies from circus trials and national scandals.

Enjoying the rain today? ;)

JP Nakamura
Union of Intergalactic Miners and Nano Assemblers
#215 - 2014-05-09 17:45:09 UTC
Marsha Mallow wrote:
Doc Fury wrote:
Quite understandable that CCP cannot name names, affiliations and etc.

However, could you please tell us the approx isk value of all the stuffs confiscated from the permanently banned accounts?

QuestionQuestionQuestionQuestion

They should award confiscated stuff to those who ask first. And remain unscrubbed.

*holds out hand

Or we could have a CCP event monthly for confiscated stuff. For community and stuff. Mining competitions... good posting...


Actually ... and here's an idea ... use assets confiscated from Perma Banned Acounts as an ISK sink and auction the stuff off via Contracts from "CONCORD Impound".

They can choose what/how to release things (things like T2 BPOs they might want to keep 'for the state'), and set base prices. Lets them recycle rarer items back into the community that might be in the toons hangers and brings the Whoop Whoop of the space Police to a whole new level ... introduces the Space Marshal come to haul your stuff away.

I look forward to the pre-auction catalog of seized and impounded assets.

(I also expect my percentage for this idea in the usual place Pirate)

CCP: 10+ years of Harvesting players Tears  (latest efforts being Source Limited Edition, and Alliance Logo Revised Policies)

James Amril-Kesh
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#216 - 2014-05-09 18:36:07 UTC  |  Edited by: James Amril-Kesh
That won't happen because in the even of an ban repeal they'll want to be able to return the player's accounts to them as they were.

Enjoying the rain today? ;)

Cyniac
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#217 - 2014-05-09 18:40:38 UTC
Where there was darkness, there is light.

Thanks Falcon & the folks at CCP.
Doc Fury
Furious Enterprises
#218 - 2014-05-09 18:51:06 UTC  |  Edited by: Doc Fury
Jarod Garamonde wrote:
Ralph King-Griffin wrote:
Doc Fury wrote:
What steps has CCP taken to prevent future abuse/vandalism of the monument?

Sniper.


He's a CCP employee, even. You'll never see him post here, but his name is "CCP Headshotdoublekill"....



CCP No-see-um™

There's a million angry citizens looking down their tubes..at me.

Aiwanwan Buwangun
Royal Amarr Institute
Amarr Empire
#219 - 2014-05-10 16:33:18 UTC
That's why I like the game and its community.

All happened so far have taught you the importance to follow the rules. No breaking EULA, no insulting other community members.
Louis Robichaud
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#220 - 2014-05-10 20:42:17 UTC
Pretty saddened that this occurred, but I think CCP handled it well.

I blog a bit http://hspew.blogspot.ca