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A message regarding vandalism of the EVE Universe Monument

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Jawa Strong
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#281 - 2014-05-30 17:02:29 UTC
"Secondly, we would like to reiterate that we do not tolerate this kind of behavior and will continue to operate a zero tolerance approach to dealing with harassment and victimization in the EVE Universe. "

This seems hypocritical. When harassment and victimization in the EVE Universe is encouraged and rewarded. When issues of this nature are brought up the response has always been "Working as Intended". The monument should have had better security. It got ganked.
James Amril-Kesh
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#282 - 2014-05-30 21:21:36 UTC
Jawa Strong wrote:
When harassment and victimization in the EVE Universe is encouraged and rewarded.

No, it isn't.

Enjoying the rain today? ;)

Aramatheia
Tiffany and Co.
#283 - 2014-05-31 17:14:46 UTC
I only just learned of this, how lame that these people went to iceland just to wreck the monument, what shallow pathetic fleshy blobs they must be, to have that little moral fibre and respect.

I hope the people who did it have to pay the repair costs too, let them realise that real world crime has real world consequence. Internet spaceships ends when they leave the computer. I hope CCP can also find a way to permaban them eternally, just to really drive home the message about taking game grudges into the real world and how its not acceptable.

This all make Mittens fanfest ordeal seem quite sedate and irrelevant tbh
Ramona McCandless
The McCandless Clan
#284 - 2014-06-01 01:14:00 UTC
BeBopAReBop RhubarbPie wrote:


Ramona McCandless wrote:
This is true

Though what I dont get is why people are so upset about a bit of damage to a thing they want to kill or maim over it

When I kill or main I dont need an excuse to get all pissy about

Obviously some people aren't as well adjusted as you are Ramona!


Iknorite?

I do try to help where I can

Perhaps I should work harder towards making the Ministry of Alterations a real thing

"Yea, some dude came in and was normal for first couple months, so I gave him director." - Sean Dunaway

"A singular character could be hired to penetrate another corps space... using gorilla like tactics..." - Chane Morgann

Xenuria
#285 - 2014-06-01 04:56:44 UTC
Jawa Strong wrote:
"Secondly, we would like to reiterate that we do not tolerate this kind of behavior and will continue to operate a zero tolerance approach to dealing with harassment and victimization in the EVE Universe. "

This seems hypocritical. When harassment and victimization in the EVE Universe is encouraged and rewarded. When issues of this nature are brought up the response has always been "Working as Intended". The monument should have had better security. It got ganked.


Let me try and explain the difference.

When a player ganks another player ingame or scams them, this is working as intended.

If a player harasses another player at an irl event because of something in-game this is NOT working as intended.
Some people are unwilling to see the distinction.


I am 100% in support of all the horrible stuff that happens INSIDE the game client.
I am 100% against any form of bullying or victimization happening OUTSIDE the game client.

Does that make sense?
James Amril-Kesh
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#286 - 2014-06-01 21:40:31 UTC
Ramona McCandless wrote:
Perhaps I should work harder towards making the Ministry of Alterations a real thing

I have some pants that need hemming.

Enjoying the rain today? ;)

Ramona McCandless
The McCandless Clan
#287 - 2014-06-02 00:01:10 UTC
James Amril-Kesh wrote:
Ramona McCandless wrote:
Perhaps I should work harder towards making the Ministry of Alterations a real thing

I have some pants that need hemming.

lol

Not that kind of Alteration, but I loled so yeah I can get a lobotomised sebiestor slave to do that for you.

Oh wait, they come braindead already, oops

"Yea, some dude came in and was normal for first couple months, so I gave him director." - Sean Dunaway

"A singular character could be hired to penetrate another corps space... using gorilla like tactics..." - Chane Morgann

Vivec Septim
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#288 - 2014-06-02 20:00:41 UTC
Well -- some people have a hard time with that distinction -- in-game and in real life.

I think it goes to the core culture in-game affecting those outside of the game without
any real anchor or identity.

Is this EVE's fault?

I don't believe so.
Be good or bad in the game, and outside, lets treat each other with respect. You don't
have to like them, but you do need to learn to coexist.

I must not fear. Fear is the mind-killer. Fear is the little-death that brings total obliteration. I will face my fear. 

Ramona McCandless
The McCandless Clan
#289 - 2014-06-02 20:24:24 UTC
Vivec Septim wrote:
Well -- some people have a hard time with that distinction -- in-game and in real life.

I think it goes to the core culture in-game affecting those outside of the game without
any real anchor or identity.

Is this EVE's fault?

I don't believe so.
Be good or bad in the game, and outside, lets treat each other with respect. You don't
have to like them, but you do need to learn to coexist.

Your Lawful Good nature is strangely infectious

Id better get some pills

Or a topical

Or some Lilt

"Yea, some dude came in and was normal for first couple months, so I gave him director." - Sean Dunaway

"A singular character could be hired to penetrate another corps space... using gorilla like tactics..." - Chane Morgann

Aeligos
A.'.A.'.
#290 - 2014-06-03 03:56:23 UTC
Wow

I can't believe this.

I hadn't heard of this until now upon visiting this thread.... I"m just a lowly miner, mining my business like a buzzy lil bee...

How was it vandalized?

libera te tvtemet ex inferis

A.'.A.'.

Milla Goodpussy
Garoun Investment Bank
#291 - 2014-06-03 09:53:44 UTC
im just going to call it like I freaking see so if feelings get hurt.. you're still an idiot for allowing this to occur.

plain as day everyone knows ccp marketed this game to all crazies and sociopaths around the globe. they also encouraged to develop a very harsh and mean in-game atmosphere. where up to a certain degree bullying, disrespect, victimization is actually allowed. if its not one thing its another.. eve online is known as one of if not the only one. the craziest mmo full of all kinds of mental heads.. You ccp should have had that thing under close guard at all times. that's all on you and your ego thinking no one will touch it.. IT SHOULD HAVE BEEN INSIDE! common freaking sense should have told you folks that "hey there's crazies in the game that could travel up here and ruin our investment".. but no.. ccp plays friendly with the sicko's and think its cool to be friends with them.. epic freaking in denial as thinking ccp. That's all on you and nothing but you that brought that attack on. You didn't even bother to think it would happen.. do you believe in unicorns as well?

and like banning someone will really do something.. eve online IS land of the alts! from yesterday, to today, into tomorrow.. what makes you so sure those idiots are gone and never will come back.

that thing should have been inside.
I was against it cause I just knew it was going to happen.. someone with but hurt feelings and a revenge streak until next decades server reset saw that coming.. im amazed they just didn't do it during the fan fest.. how come you guys couldn't place better security around it.. on it.. again it should be inside.

this was an insult to the community and who ever got the heat.. and a direct FU to ccp and what they think of you..

you should really begin backing up your words and stand up for Anti-bullying campaigns and what not.. then again you are the same people that invite someone to play the villain.. lol

you cater to the sicko's.. do not expect the sicko's to not have a field day. cause you sat there and allowed it.

now many will sit up and deny that "eve is so evil cause yada yada yada".. but in reality one can just check local chat logs and see the words and take a few looks at crap folks have on their bio pages.. just to name a couple points about this evil game world ccp allowed to become..

no wonder folks are leaving, no wonder you cant keep new players,, its cause of this and i'll tell you some thing I hope you drag that thing inside before what ever happened to it becomes an annual "burn jita" like tradition.

think people think!.

if ccp stuck by their words.. then they should revamp and revise their harassment policies cause no matter the PR you still allow plenty of folks to get away with it. oh that's right.. you cant cause you hate carebears..
Ryuu Towryk
Perkone
Caldari State
#292 - 2014-06-03 12:01:07 UTC
Jawa Strong wrote:
"Secondly, we would like to reiterate that we do not tolerate this kind of behavior and will continue to operate a zero tolerance approach to dealing with harassment and victimization in the EVE Universe. "

This seems hypocritical. When harassment and victimization in the EVE Universe is encouraged and rewarded. When issues of this nature are brought up the response has always been "Working as Intended". The monument should have had better security. It got ganked.


Video game world ≠ Real life.
Do people really need to be told this?