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Felicity Love
Doomheim
#21 - 2014-04-30 21:12:16 UTC
WIS... there was never much hope, just an avatar's hope.

RIP... and you can send the 500 quid to me... I have alts to feed.

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Gully Alex Foyle
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#22 - 2014-04-30 21:14:43 UTC
Imiarr Timshae wrote:
Gully Alex Foyle wrote:
Sibyyl wrote:
WIS must come from a team with a sustainable future. The kickstarter idea, though interesting, would only create a situation like in EVE where a two day old rookie gets a billion ISK. You want WIS to come from a place of good ideas and a team that's able to justify its initial and continued existence.

Of course the problem with WIS is no one is able to answer WHY the feature would be essential to EVE (I know you'd have fun in it but that's not enough of a reason because it doesn't answer what WIS would contribute to the rest of the gameplay in EVE).

True. What about pvp gambling without wis?

Texas hold'em with ISK while you're gatecamping, or waiting for a fleet to form up.

100% eve spirit. Enable asset gambling for people low on isk.

Would be great.


EOH poker has been running for a long time.

And if all you have is assets use one of the pawn services :) You'll have chips in minutes :P

Meh, just checked and website shows 18 people online What?

Don't mean to put these guys out of business, but let's have it in-game!

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Ralph King-Griffin
New Eden Tech Support
#23 - 2014-04-30 21:19:46 UTC
DaReaper wrote:
Johan Civire wrote:
Darth Kilth wrote:
Ralph King-Griffin wrote:
If you're contributing, shouldn't you give it to them beforehand?

Only idiots on Kickstarter and those who get pre-orders give their money before the product is released.



uhm star citizen



I think that was kinda his point

I think that was exactly his point

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Doireen Kaundur
Doomheim
#24 - 2014-04-30 21:24:03 UTC
Ubat Batuk wrote:
Doireen Kaundur wrote:
You dont seem to understand. CCP does not have the coding skills to pull off WIS. That is what it comes down to.
Just look at how lousy our toons look walking around in CQ.

If they do it, it will suck.

I suspect that is the other reason why WoD was canned.


If they want to make it, they can recruit people with the right skills from other studios.


That is the obvious answer. Why they dont do it to redeem themselves by giving us a viable WIS, is beyond me.

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Unsuccessful At Everything
The Troll Bridge
#25 - 2014-04-30 21:32:03 UTC
For the $5000 pledge level youll receive:

All of the benefits of the 500$ pledge level plus:

In game title of Rear Admiral

Rough napkin sketch of a Megathron having coitus with a crinkle cut French fry

1 5lb bag of Dominix models

One slightly moist used towelette salvaged from Hilmar's trash can

Hardcover of the upcoming best selling book "The Successful Voyages of Unsuccessful at Everything" incl bonus hardbound copy of "The Office Diaries"

1 Unsuccessful at Everything's Velator complete with 1 trit and Civilian Electron Blaster and Civilian Mining Laser

1 Unsuccessful at Everything corpse

and a medal of your choice awarded by The Troll Bridge



Since the cessation of their usefulness is imminent, may I appropriate your belongings?
Felicity Love
Doomheim
#26 - 2014-04-30 21:34:17 UTC
Unsuccessful At Everything wrote:
For the $5000 pledge level youll receive:

All of the benefits of the 500$ pledge level plus:

In game title of Rear Admiral

Rough napkin sketch of a Megathron having coitus with a crinkle cut French fry

1 5lb bag of Dominix models

One slightly moist used towelette salvaged from Hilmar's trash can

Hardcover of the upcoming best selling book "The Successful Voyages of Unsuccessful at Everything" incl bonus hardbound copy of "The Office Diaries"

1 Unsuccessful at Everything's Velator complete with 1 trit and Civilian Electron Blaster and Civilian Mining Laser

1 Unsuccessful at Everything corpse

and a medal of your choice awarded by The Troll Bridge



No t-shirt ?

Tsk, tsk. Cry

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Doc Fury
Furious Enterprises
#27 - 2014-04-30 21:55:12 UTC
Felicity Love wrote:
Unsuccessful At Everything wrote:
For the $5000 pledge level youll receive:

All of the benefits of the 500$ pledge level plus:

In game title of Rear Admiral

Rough napkin sketch of a Megathron having coitus with a crinkle cut French fry

1 5lb bag of Dominix models

One slightly moist used towelette salvaged from Hilmar's trash can

Hardcover of the upcoming best selling book "The Successful Voyages of Unsuccessful at Everything" incl bonus hardbound copy of "The Office Diaries"

1 Unsuccessful at Everything's Velator complete with 1 trit and Civilian Electron Blaster and Civilian Mining Laser

1 Unsuccessful at Everything corpse

and a medal of your choice awarded by The Troll Bridge



No t-shirt ?

Tsk, tsk. Cry



And no Fedo plushie.. What kind of ruse is this my dear fellow?




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Little Dragon Khamez
Guardians of the Underworld
#28 - 2014-04-30 21:57:51 UTC  |  Edited by: Little Dragon Khamez
Doc Fury wrote:
Ubat Batuk wrote:
Doireen Kaundur wrote:
You dont seem to understand. CCP does not have the coding skills to pull off WIS. That is what it comes down to.
Just look at how lousy our toons look walking around in CQ.

If they do it, it will suck.

I suspect that is the other reason why WoD was canned.


If they want to make it, they can recruit people with the right skills from other studios.


You mean people like the ones they just laid off sent to the True Death in Atlanta?

Having a bunch of devs working on "something" without a plan or a clue is a waste of resources. CCP still has no plan or clue how to do this. Maybe you should kickstart funding for some realistic and deliverable ideas first.


As much as I support WIS content in eve I too am beginning to think that CCP lack the organisational skill to pull it off, they have talented devs no doubt, but the ass hattery that has gone on in the last couple of years points to a company that just cant deliver at the managerial level. I sympathise with the OP though, a kickstarter style campaign would end the question of WIS once and for all, as we'd soon see how well supported it is by the existing playerbase.

EDIT: If CCP goes on Kickstarter or a similar site asking for WIS Cash I too will pledge.

Dumbing down of Eve Online will result in it's destruction...
Darth Kilth
KarmaFleet
Goonswarm Federation
#29 - 2014-04-30 22:00:14 UTC
Johan Civire wrote:
Darth Kilth wrote:
Ralph King-Griffin wrote:
If you're contributing, shouldn't you give it to them beforehand?

Only idiots on Kickstarter and those who get pre-orders give their money before the product is released.



uhm star citizen on topic ccp have plenty of money. The have even a pre-build model The are waiting i don`t know for what but it will have a good reason i hope Straight

That's the exception that proves the rule.
Erica Dusette
Division 13
#30 - 2014-04-30 22:02:00 UTC
I don't know how effective the program suggested would be, although I really love the premise. Not to mention it's always awesome to see another WiS/Avatar related thread pop up. Smile

Personally I've already dumped so much time and money into all of my avatars that I'd like to think of that already as my "pledge". Considering the prices of tattoos these days, for instance, some of my toons are worth more than capital ships. It's quite obvious if there was more content to buy or use - I'd buy and use it. So ... there's my pledge.

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Unsuccessful At Everything
The Troll Bridge
#31 - 2014-04-30 22:02:58 UTC
Doc Fury wrote:
Felicity Love wrote:
Unsuccessful At Everything wrote:
For the $5000 pledge level youll receive:

All of the benefits of the 500$ pledge level plus:

In game title of Rear Admiral

Rough napkin sketch of a Megathron having coitus with a crinkle cut French fry

1 5lb bag of Dominix models

One slightly moist used towelette salvaged from Hilmar's trash can

Hardcover of the upcoming best selling book "The Successful Voyages of Unsuccessful at Everything" incl bonus hardbound copy of "The Office Diaries"

1 Unsuccessful at Everything's Velator complete with 1 trit and Civilian Electron Blaster and Civilian Mining Laser

1 Unsuccessful at Everything corpse

and a medal of your choice awarded by The Troll Bridge



No t-shirt ?

Tsk, tsk. Cry



And no Fedo plushie.. What kind of ruse is this my dear fellow?






Ok Ok... Now included by popular demand

1 plush Fedo

1 "Baltec" Never Not Mega T-shirt (ladies medium only)

1 autographed glossy black and white 8x10 photo of Unsuccessful at Everything with personalized message (it wasn't demanded per-se, but the demand was implied.)

Since the cessation of their usefulness is imminent, may I appropriate your belongings?
Doc Fury
Furious Enterprises
#32 - 2014-04-30 22:06:48 UTC
Little Dragon Khamez wrote:
Doc Fury wrote:
Ubat Batuk wrote:
Doireen Kaundur wrote:
You dont seem to understand. CCP does not have the coding skills to pull off WIS. That is what it comes down to.
Just look at how lousy our toons look walking around in CQ.

If they do it, it will suck.

I suspect that is the other reason why WoD was canned.


If they want to make it, they can recruit people with the right skills from other studios.


You mean people like the ones they just laid off sent to the True Death in Atlanta?

Having a bunch of devs working on "something" without a plan or a clue is a waste of resources. CCP still has no plan or clue how to do this. Maybe you should kickstart funding for some realistic and deliverable ideas first.


As much as I support WIS content in eve I too am beginning to think that CCP lack the organisational skill to pull it off, they have talented devs no doubt, but the ass hattery that has gone on in the last couple of years points to a company that just cant deliver at the managerial level. I sympathise with the OP though, a kickstarter style campaign would end the question of WIS once and for all, as we'd soon see how well supported it is by the existing playerbase.

EDIT: If CCP goes on Kickstarter or a similar site asking for WIS Cash I too will pledge.

Exactly. Devs need to be told what to do, and have a clear plan to work from. If the people responsible for organizing all of that can't make a decision, or don't have a plan or vision (or keep changing their minds) you get Devs that basically sit around doing busy work to collect a paycheck until they get reassigned or nerfed.


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There's a million angry citizens looking down their tubes..at me.
Nerath Naaris
Pink Winged Unicorns for Peace Love and Anarchy
#33 - 2014-04-30 22:07:13 UTC  |  Edited by: Nerath Naaris
While not as passionate about hating WiS as some others here, I don´t think WiS would work just for the sake of showing off like in some other MMORGS.... Eve Online and its players simply do not operate this way.

That means you will need some content beyond some expanded, shared Captains´ Quarters, most importantly a way to interact with each other like you currently can outside of the stations. Which means CCP better start thinking about ways how someone who is Walking in Station can kill and be killed (something that the Devs rejected from the beginning, though, iirc). THEN you just might start getting some sympathy for WiS. Perhaps.
Also a way to evict someone forcefully from the station. Just think what that would mean to Jita local. Imagine a million scammers crying out in pain and suddenly fall silent.
Something to almost look forward to....

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Peter Raptor
Galactic Hawks
#34 - 2014-04-30 22:20:50 UTC
I have to admit, I am concerned WiS will end up being a haunt for weirdo's, perverts and pedo's, judging by some of the comments posted on these forums Cry

There are 12 year olds playing this game for goodness sake

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Khanh'rhh
Sparkle Motion.
#35 - 2014-04-30 22:21:23 UTC
CCP just cancelled a whole game based on the carbon engine because they couldn't get it working. I think the chances of them getting it working for WiS is just about nil.

Gotta wonder where the game would be now if they didn't cull it at the CQ and had tried to sink the time needed to get it working into the project.

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Slade Trillgon
Brutor Force Federated
#36 - 2014-04-30 22:23:10 UTC
Darth Kilth wrote:
Ralph King-Griffin wrote:
If you're contributing, shouldn't you give it to them beforehand?

Only idiots on Kickstarter and those who get pre-orders give their money before the product is released.



So venture capitalists are idiots Shocked
Varesk
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#37 - 2014-04-30 22:27:59 UTC
Your spaceship is your avatar and new eden is your station. So undock and deal with it.
Optimo Sebiestor
The New Eden School of trade
Organization of Skill Extracting Corporations
#38 - 2014-04-30 22:47:22 UTC
CCP have shown us with captain quarters that they do not have what it takes to make characters move/behave properly within the confinement of 4 walls, a roof and a floor.
Erufen Rito
The Dark Space Initiative
Scary Wormhole People
#39 - 2014-04-30 22:56:25 UTC
Hm, I think I can 1up you OP.

I won't unsub my accounts once WiS is finished and delivered.

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Cpt Swagg
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#40 - 2014-04-30 22:58:05 UTC
WiS is being hold under the hood as a last resort.

I dont think they will release it anytime in the near future while eve flourishes.