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Ubat Batuk
Garoun Investment Bank
Gallente Federation
#1 - 2014-04-30 20:31:34 UTC  |  Edited by: Ubat Batuk
I pledge £500 as personal contribution to WiS which CCP can take automatically from my account when they deliver WiS.

1. Are there other players with ballz to commit to WiS development?
2. CCP do you have the ballz to make WiS?

I am watching this with interest...

Link to CCP video about WiS:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a8sfaN8zT8E


Added comments on 08/05/2014:

The typical answer to this post is that WiS was cancelled after a huge protest in Jita and that is not supported by the community. Here is the statement from CCP proving that this is not the case.

Please read this statement from CCP. It says all and answers very clearly the topic:
http://community.eveonline.com/news/dev-blogs/2672


Edit on 4 May 2014:
Based on various feedback and the Fanfest outcome, I have decided to withdraw my pledge. I thank ISD for cleaning up the posts with personal attacks.
Ralph King-Griffin
New Eden Tech Support
#2 - 2014-04-30 20:34:50 UTC
If you're contributing, shouldn't you give it to them beforehand?

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Darth Kilth
KarmaFleet
Goonswarm Federation
#3 - 2014-04-30 20:35:44 UTC
Ralph King-Griffin wrote:
If you're contributing, shouldn't you give it to them beforehand?

Only idiots on Kickstarter and those who get pre-orders give their money before the product is released.
Ralph King-Griffin
New Eden Tech Support
#4 - 2014-04-30 20:41:13 UTC
Darth Kilth wrote:
Ralph King-Griffin wrote:
If you're contributing, shouldn't you give it to them beforehand?

Only idiots on Kickstarter and those who get pre-orders give their money before the product is released.

I know that, I was just pointing to a silly point in the silly op.

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Gully Alex Foyle
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#5 - 2014-04-30 20:41:29 UTC
I'd give a few bucks only for gambling (pvp), hookers and bars. In EVE stations, I mean.

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Doireen Kaundur
Doomheim
#6 - 2014-04-30 20:41:43 UTC
Ubat Batuk wrote:

1. Are there other players with ballz to commit to WiS development?
2. CCP do you have the ballz to make WiS?


NO™

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Doc Fury
Furious Enterprises
#7 - 2014-04-30 20:43:54 UTC
Ubat Batuk wrote:
I pledge £500 as personal contribution to WiS which CCP can take automatically from my account when they deliver WiS.

1. Are there other players with ballz to commit to WiS development?
2. CCP do you have the ballz to make WiS?

I am watching this with interest...



I'll offer to WIS on you for a tenner.

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Doireen Kaundur
Doomheim
#8 - 2014-04-30 20:44:30 UTC
You dont seem to understand. CCP does not have the coding skills to pull off WIS. That is what it comes down to.
Just look at how lousy our toons look walking around in CQ.

If they do it, it will suck.

I suspect that is the other reason why WoD was canned.

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Ubat Batuk
Garoun Investment Bank
Gallente Federation
#9 - 2014-04-30 20:50:02 UTC
Doireen Kaundur wrote:
You dont seem to understand. CCP does not have the coding skills to pull off WIS. That is what it comes down to.
Just look at how lousy our toons look walking around in CQ.

If they do it, it will suck.

I suspect that is the other reason why WoD was canned.


If they want to make it, they can recruit people with the right skills from other studios.
Lucius Lure
Obertura
#10 - 2014-04-30 20:50:35 UTC
Ubat Batuk wrote:
I pledge £500 as personal contribution to WiS which CCP can take automatically from my account when they deliver WiS.

1. Are there other players with ballz to commit to WiS development?
2. CCP do you have the ballz to make WiS?

I am watching this with interest...


Take your bud out of the chair, cause CCP is not doing it. Sorry to say.
Solecist Project
#11 - 2014-04-30 20:50:58 UTC
Ubat Batuk wrote:
I pledge £500 as personal contribution to WiS which CCP can take automatically from my account when they deliver WiS.

1. Are there other players with ballz to commit to WiS development?
2. CCP do you have the ballz to make WiS?

I am watching this with interest...

I hope you don't want to be taken seriously.


They need the money beforehand,
not afterwards.

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Sibyyl
Garoun Investment Bank
Gallente Federation
#12 - 2014-04-30 20:51:42 UTC
WIS must come from a team with a sustainable future. The kickstarter idea, though interesting, would only create a situation like in EVE where a two day old rookie gets a billion ISK. You want WIS to come from a place of good ideas and a team that's able to justify its initial and continued existence.

Of course the problem with WIS is no one is able to answer WHY the feature would be essential to EVE (I know you'd have fun in it but that's not enough of a reason because it doesn't answer what WIS would contribute to the rest of the gameplay in EVE).

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Johan Civire
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#13 - 2014-04-30 20:52:20 UTC  |  Edited by: Johan Civire
Darth Kilth wrote:
Ralph King-Griffin wrote:
If you're contributing, shouldn't you give it to them beforehand?

Only idiots on Kickstarter and those who get pre-orders give their money before the product is released.



uhm star citizen on topic ccp have plenty of money. The have even a pre-build model The are waiting i don`t know for what but it will have a good reason i hope Straight
Ubat Batuk
Garoun Investment Bank
Gallente Federation
#14 - 2014-04-30 20:54:14 UTC
Solecist Project wrote:
Ubat Batuk wrote:
I pledge £500 as personal contribution to WiS which CCP can take automatically from my account when they deliver WiS.

1. Are there other players with ballz to commit to WiS development?
2. CCP do you have the ballz to make WiS?

I am watching this with interest...

I hope you don't want to be taken seriously.


They need the money beforehand,
not afterwards.


This is money that otherwise would not be in CCP pockets. It's called pledge for a reason. CCP delivers, I promise to pay.

Pledge: a solemn promise or undertaking.
Doc Fury
Furious Enterprises
#15 - 2014-04-30 20:54:17 UTC  |  Edited by: Doc Fury
Ubat Batuk wrote:
Doireen Kaundur wrote:
You dont seem to understand. CCP does not have the coding skills to pull off WIS. That is what it comes down to.
Just look at how lousy our toons look walking around in CQ.

If they do it, it will suck.

I suspect that is the other reason why WoD was canned.


If they want to make it, they can recruit people with the right skills from other studios.


You mean people like the ones they just laid off sent to the True Death in Atlanta?

Having a bunch of devs working on "something" without a plan or a clue is a waste of resources. CCP still has no plan or clue how to do this. Maybe you should kickstart funding for some realistic and deliverable ideas first.

☼

There's a million angry citizens looking down their tubes..at me.
Ubat Batuk
Garoun Investment Bank
Gallente Federation
#16 - 2014-04-30 20:57:52 UTC
Doc Fury wrote:
Ubat Batuk wrote:
Doireen Kaundur wrote:
You dont seem to understand. CCP does not have the coding skills to pull off WIS. That is what it comes down to.
Just look at how lousy our toons look walking around in CQ.

If they do it, it will suck.

I suspect that is the other reason why WoD was canned.


If they want to make it, they can recruit people with the right skills from other studios.


You mean people like the ones they just laid off sent to the True Death in Atlanta?

Having a bunch of devs working on "something" without a plan or a clue is a waste of resources. CCP still has no plan or clue how to do this. Maybe you should kickstart funding for some realistic and deliverable ideas first.


Let's be serious, they can me DUST and the WoD environment demo did look stunning. WHo says they don;t have skills?
Gully Alex Foyle
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#17 - 2014-04-30 20:57:53 UTC
Sibyyl wrote:
WIS must come from a team with a sustainable future. The kickstarter idea, though interesting, would only create a situation like in EVE where a two day old rookie gets a billion ISK. You want WIS to come from a place of good ideas and a team that's able to justify its initial and continued existence.

Of course the problem with WIS is no one is able to answer WHY the feature would be essential to EVE (I know you'd have fun in it but that's not enough of a reason because it doesn't answer what WIS would contribute to the rest of the gameplay in EVE).

True. What about pvp gambling without wis?

Texas hold'em with ISK while you're gatecamping, or waiting for a fleet to form up.

100% eve spirit. Enable asset gambling for people low on isk.

Would be great.

Make space glamorous! Is EVE dying or not? Ask the EVE-O Death-o-meter!
DaReaper
Net 7
Cannon.Fodder
#18 - 2014-04-30 21:03:56 UTC
Johan Civire wrote:
Darth Kilth wrote:
Ralph King-Griffin wrote:
If you're contributing, shouldn't you give it to them beforehand?

Only idiots on Kickstarter and those who get pre-orders give their money before the product is released.



uhm star citizen



I think that was kinda his point

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Imiarr Timshae
Funny Men In Funny Hats
#19 - 2014-04-30 21:04:04 UTC
Gully Alex Foyle wrote:
Sibyyl wrote:
WIS must come from a team with a sustainable future. The kickstarter idea, though interesting, would only create a situation like in EVE where a two day old rookie gets a billion ISK. You want WIS to come from a place of good ideas and a team that's able to justify its initial and continued existence.

Of course the problem with WIS is no one is able to answer WHY the feature would be essential to EVE (I know you'd have fun in it but that's not enough of a reason because it doesn't answer what WIS would contribute to the rest of the gameplay in EVE).

True. What about pvp gambling without wis?

Texas hold'em with ISK while you're gatecamping, or waiting for a fleet to form up.

100% eve spirit. Enable asset gambling for people low on isk.

Would be great.


EOH poker has been running for a long time.

And if all you have is assets use one of the pawn services :) You'll have chips in minutes :P

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Doc Fury
Furious Enterprises
#20 - 2014-04-30 21:07:14 UTC
Ubat Batuk wrote:
Doc Fury wrote:
Ubat Batuk wrote:
Doireen Kaundur wrote:
You dont seem to understand. CCP does not have the coding skills to pull off WIS. That is what it comes down to.
Just look at how lousy our toons look walking around in CQ.

If they do it, it will suck.

I suspect that is the other reason why WoD was canned.


If they want to make it, they can recruit people with the right skills from other studios.


You mean people like the ones they just laid off sent to the True Death in Atlanta?

Having a bunch of devs working on "something" without a plan or a clue is a waste of resources. CCP still has no plan or clue how to do this. Maybe you should kickstart funding for some realistic and deliverable ideas first.


Let's be serious, they can me DUST and the WoD environment demo did look stunning. WHo says they don;t have skills?



To do what EXACTLY?

They had 8 years to make WOD and it never even got to alpha or beyond tech demos.

Maybe you should instead kickstart your own game once you work out all the intricate details about how its going to work, what people are going to do and what will make it compelling to play for more than 10 minutes.









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There's a million angry citizens looking down their tubes..at me.
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