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[Kronos] Hull Hitpoint Rigs

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CCP Fozzie
C C P
C C P Alliance
#1 - 2014-04-28 17:54:58 UTC  |  Edited by: CCP Rise
:Edit: Updated on May 13th thanks to your feedback :edit:

Another small change in our Summer 2014 release that we're ready to collect feedback on:

We're planning on adding a series of Hull HP rigs, known as Transverse Bulkheads. These rigs will use the Armor Rigging skill, with a penalty to cargo capacity. They will be available in all sizes.
The T1 rigs would increase hull hitpoints by 20%, at the cost of 50 calibration.
The T2 rigs would increase hull hitpoints by 25%, at the cost of 75 calibration.

We don't expect these to replace trimarks and CDFEs for most players, but having the option should be interesting in several cases.

We are also going to swap the speed penalty on all reinforced bulkhead modules to an equal percentage cargo capacity penalty. The agility penalty will remain intact at this time.

Let us know what you think!
-Fozzie

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The Sinister
Interbellum
TURBOFEED OR GLORY
#2 - 2014-04-28 17:55:45 UTC
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Rowells
Blackwater USA Inc.
Pandemic Horde
#3 - 2014-04-28 17:55:49 UTC  |  Edited by: Rowells
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Arthur Aihaken
CODE.d
#4 - 2014-04-28 17:58:25 UTC
Now all we need are rig slots for freighters (hint, hint)...

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The Sinister
Interbellum
TURBOFEED OR GLORY
#5 - 2014-04-28 17:58:31 UTC
Fozzie i would really like to see an improvement on the Hull Repers thoo cause they are not even to close to been effective.
Harvey James
The Sengoku Legacy
#6 - 2014-04-28 17:58:45 UTC
and who would use them?
hull tanking as a whole is something that needs work if you expect people to hull tank anything

T3's need to be versatile so no rigs are necessary ... they should not have OP dps and tank

ABC's should be T2, remove drone assist, separate HAM's and Torps range, -3 HS for droneboats

Nerf web strength, Make the blaster Eagle worth using
Tengu Grib
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#7 - 2014-04-28 17:58:46 UTC
Real men hull tank. Thanks CCP! Now we can do it for REAL!

Rabble Rabble Rabble

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Swiftstrike1
Swiftstrike Incorporated
#8 - 2014-04-28 17:59:11 UTC
I might put some on my orca alongside the DCU and bulkhead in the lows, but I can't think of any other situations where I'd ever use them.

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Tengu Grib
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#9 - 2014-04-28 17:59:52 UTC
Harvey James wrote:
and who would use them?
hull tanking as a whole is something that needs work if you expect people to hull tank anything


Hull rigs on orcas, with DC and Bulkhead. Yeah, not looking forward to trying to pop those.

Rabble Rabble Rabble

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Noxisia Arkana
Deadspace Knights
#10 - 2014-04-28 18:00:28 UTC
Swiftstrike1 wrote:
I might put some on my orca alongside the DCU and bulkhead in the lows, but I can't think of any other situations where I'd ever use them.


This, unless you do something with the repair modules.
Beaver Retriever
Reality Sequence
#11 - 2014-04-28 18:02:25 UTC
A neat gimmick, it would be well accompanied by hull reppers raised slightly above their current 'worthless' threshold.
Pertuabo Enkidgan
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#12 - 2014-04-28 18:02:53 UTC
Could you speed up Hull Repairer cycle too?
Powers Sa
#13 - 2014-04-28 18:04:28 UTC
RIP orca ganking

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BadAssMcKill
Aliastra
#14 - 2014-04-28 18:08:22 UTC
Sure why not
Adunh Slavy
#15 - 2014-04-28 18:09:14 UTC
Can we fit them on freighters?

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Mara Tessidar
Perkone
Caldari State
#16 - 2014-04-28 18:09:46 UTC
Powers Sa wrote:
RIP orca ganking


literally the only ship that would ever use these rigs
Querns
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#17 - 2014-04-28 18:13:19 UTC
Looking forward to slapping three of these puppies on a rorqual and wrecking some fools.

Not even kidding, the drone bonus on a rorqual is insane and they have most of their EHP in hull.

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X Gallentius
Black Eagle1
#18 - 2014-04-28 18:13:40 UTC  |  Edited by: X Gallentius
\o/!!! It's a start.

Please consider something other than speed penalty like you did with armor repper rigs. Same reasoning as well. Gallente hulls (the ships that benefit most) don't do well with speed penalties. Please move it to cargo space.


If you're putting these rigs on Dreads, then speed penalty is irrelevant.
Mara Tessidar
Perkone
Caldari State
#19 - 2014-04-28 18:16:34 UTC
actually no: battle rorquals

also those stats are stupid and if you're going to add those rigs then at least have the common sense to put them in line with existing rig stat bonuses for starters
Dave Stark
#20 - 2014-04-28 18:17:31 UTC
X Gallentius wrote:
\o/!!! It's a start. What's the penalty? Hopefully nothing or some non-critical stat like cargo space. If it's speed or agility, then we need to talk.

XG


i missed it in the original post first time i read it; it uses armor rigging skills and has the same penalty (speed).
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