Player Features and Ideas Discussion

That long a point range with a disruptor would certainly be a waste But fit a scram with that bonus and you suddenly have a very usable bonus.

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ASHIMMU

Amarr Cruiser Bonus:
20% bonus to Energy Vampire effectiveness AND RANGE (was 15% bonus to Energy Vampire and Energy Neutralizer effectiveness)

Slot layout: 6H, 3M(-1), 6L(+1); 3 turrets, 0 launchers
Drones (bandwidth / bay): 0(-10) / 0(-10)

No need for 4th med slot due to having 3 NOS, therefore -1 med slot and +1 high(back to 6)
Dronebay scraped. Cannot have it all.

Adjust capacitor and capacitor recharge level so it is not infinite stable(even after the nos buff), but should be stable running guns, mwd, point, web and 1 or even 2 armor reppers.

Should be treated as a support ship, able to put pressure on target's speed and capacitor from range with low damage output.
No conflict with the neuting curse.

I would change the Navigation computer for a Target painter, switch to fury missiles and replace a Drone Damage mod with a Balistic controle unit.

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Good job rolling back the Ash and Cyna grid-annihilations that you thought were justified, too bad it took over 30pages to get there. Seriously man.
Phant will be fine, people will get over the issues around it. Honestly, its a good change, I hope you can somehow transition this set of changes to the Nightmare, though god help you there.
The Vigilant changes are still painful, you're basically whacking a solid 20% armor off at the top end due to the trimark-anc loss, but I guess that's what you'd call "balance," eh Rise?
I'm still extremely perplexed with these Guristas changes. They were acceptable on the Worm, but here on the Gila, I think you've lost it a bit, and I sincerely do not think it will transition well to the Rattle. Go for a lower RoF bonus and not this ridiculously silly therm/kin bonus. That stuff is poor.

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I'm a bit concerned about role bonus instead of per-level bonus.

With new stats we can take Gila and like one week char - he could dish out a lot of DPS with quite a EHP. And take several of those and drone assist.

Also those tech 1 drones buffs.

no you didn't, and your suggestions are bad

While I think that the new Worm is great, I don't like the new Gila so much, even though such changes were to be expected (hopefully Rattlesnake won't be changed so drastically - I would just add one more launcher slot) and it's somewhat silly for a cruiser to have a drone bay that is surpassed only by carriers. I loved the sentry Gila, and I know people will say that Ishtar is a better sentry platform, but my PvE/Industry alt doesn't want to spend 20 more days tranining Gallente Cruiser V, since Ishtar is the only ship unlocked by it that he would actually want to use. While its huge boost to drone HP should make it much popular in PvP, its PvE abilities will be somewhat gimped, even if you put a drone navigation computer to speed up your mission completion times. But I guess that mostly means the old Gila was overpowered when it comes to most PvE activities.

Naturally Phantasm needed more love since it was among the least used ships in the game, but if you apply the same afterburner bonus on a Nightmare, you're going to be hated by Incursion communities so I expect the Nightmare to remain mostly unchanged. Extra speed and extra low slot could turn the Phantasm it a good kiting platform, despite the lack of range bonus that is seen on a Zealot or Navy Omen (which can be somewhat compensated by a pair of tracking enhancers).

Other three ships were somewhat gimped, especially when it comes to their powergrid, but I don't think the nerf was big enough to make them less popular, and I really like how is CCP Rise actually listening to player feedback. In previous iteration, Cybanal wasn't so much nerfed as it was castrated.

The Vaga is better than the current Cynabal for both brawling (hello boost bonus) and kiting (hello perma-run MWD). So, we have a Cynabal that currently overlaps with Minmatar ships with a new proposed warp speed bonus that will make them overlap with interceptors. The bad part is that the warp speed bonus will help only with the pure ganking playstyle (and that's almost PVE).

a frigate can kite and passively shield tank 200dps worth of 8km/s warrior IIs. you don't seriously think that some damage bonused lights on a TQ gila actually do anything, do you?

I've spent quite a while looking at what is possible with the new Phantasm and Ashimmu. Both have a lot of options available to them, so there will be many interesting ways to fit them which is good.

I've come up with quite a few fits now which I want to test out on Singularity. From initial impressions though, I reckon both ships look sound.

I'm not sure about how this AB bonus is going to work on the Nightmare though, perhaps consider increasing the boost speed from 20% to something a little higher to make it worthwhile.

Also Rise, yesterday you said the battleship proposals will be here soon! :)