Player Features and Ideas Discussion

You could probably get funded through kickstarter....

They do this of their own accord. I do not MAKE them engage me, or MAKE them leave there ships. If they understood how the game worked, instead of remaining blissfully ignorant they would be able to EASILY avoid my tactics 100% of the time.

I was being serious, and that is an option I have in mind.

Even for Kickstarter though, you need a lot of time, enough stability to get you through the start process, and a safety net in case it implodes. Also, you need a list of specific stuff you want to do, with very reasonable and achievable goals, and maybe even an early-alpha demo / proof-of-concept. I don't want to write Star Citizen 2.

It isn't though.

Eve is such that there is inherent risk in virtually everything. Invest too much in a market that crashes and you can lose a ton of isk. Undock in a spendy ship and there is the possibility of a suicide gank. Take a big ship into low, there's a real chance you could be tackled before you align and warp.

That said, high sec is incredibly safe relative to the rest of Eve. So they aren't mutually exclusive (OPs comments and OPs actions), like you seem to think they are.

I think OP takes it a bit too far, and I agree with some of the newer player safety nets (like safety and lowsec pop-ups), as sandbox does not necessarily mean "take advantage of a day 1 player for lulz".

But OP is correct that this game has an inverse risk/reward set-up. Some of the easiest and safest content in the game is the most valuable (lvl 4s) while some of the most dangerous is less rewarded (90% of low-sec, Nullsec Exploration).

I don't think it is unreasonable, nor have I heard one good argument against this, that risk-averse activities should reward less than more dangerous endeavors.

Ganking is only as profitable as the owner makes it.

And yes, there is risk in all parts of Eve. There is less risk in high sec... unless you really want to compare running high sec missions (gankers and all) to jumping through the myriad of null sec bubble camps.

And I was poking fun at Star Citizen, not you. If SC doesn't do so hot, kickstarter may not be an option.

Most bots in highsec might have something to do with 100% of new accounts starting in highsec and a bunch of armature botters getting wacked.

You're either horrible at percents or manipulating them to try and make your point.

You could but we want to be honest about botters they generally use junk throwaway accounts to farm as much as possible for quick RMT profits before getting banned. The fact that most get banned in highsec is not surprising and has nothing to do with highsec/nullsec balance.

Player based organizations such as RvB, Brave Newbies, and EveUni all offer both training and PvP content for new players.



Most pure ISK(70-80%) comes from bounties in NullSec.



This is a good point that I had not considered before. I believe the intent was that anyone could shoot at a suspect to begin an LE. The problem is that few people actually shoot at them. Most of the time if someone sees a suspect it is mostly just, "Oh look, a flashy yellow guy..."



The reason PvP enthusiasts want it to be easier to bait and gank mission runners is because of the ridiculous amounts of ISK too many of these dipshits fit to their ships. There is profit in that. So I get that. The problem is that rather than work around the existing mechanics, you're suggesting they be changed "for the benefit of a better game for everyone". How do the changes in mechanics that you're suggesting benefit those who do enjoy mindlessly farming for space bucks?

1)

Yeah why not as soon as pve become more like pvp it will pull more ppl to that part of a game i don't think all pve need to be like that but at least half of current agents if not more are not used in eve and they can provide that kinda content.

Also i think that that kinda massive commitment to pve upgrade will never happen.

2)

Don't take a sand from my sand box nothing wrong with bounties isk adjustment sure but i cant rly think of 60man fleet shooting sansha and than snoop for wrecks like pack of rats it is both pathetic and inefficient,and lets not forget small army of parasites in frigs trying to get leftovers / steal what they didn't earn in first place.

3)

Incentives are good,nobody go for ore in lo sec that already is not in lo sec u literally need to be lobotomized to enter there with mining vessel over and over again because ppl go in low because they want to go and they surely don't go there to mine.

4)

Sure remove gate camps and bubbles and we can talk.< hey don't hate i just proposing opening up space for more risk.

Last note...high sec space is there for a reason u want to create risk go to lo or even blue 0.0 and risk will found you until then thread 125673200873 of you need to play my way.