EVE General Discussion

Here is another reason new players don't get into this game:

https://zkillboard.com/character/91427239/page/1/

All this "Ace" does is kill and pod new players in the start region despite been a ban offense from what I understand. What does CCP do? Nothing. Oh, wait, they do something, write some EULA they don't follow.

One player kills dozens of new players, oh well, they are new players so it's not our problem

Thats one sad dude man. If you check his KB, you'll see he does shoot at other ships in other systems. Guess he got scared of people shooting back.

I think we're getting trolled here about this skillpoint thing btw. There's no way people are this dense.

Too bad that it's pretty much 100% false. I agree, though, that it's the top fail of CCP that they don't permaban the griefers who keep spreading this lies to new and potentially new players. In reality, you can join the game from day one as proven by the many new players that do just that.

You don't get better at EVE when you get older either.

Just a couple of things.
For the first point, the problem is an expectation that EVE will work like other games — that you'll gather XP progress to higher levels. EVE is not like that, and it doesn't actually offer any progression on its own. So it's more a case of picking some boring number and watch it tick up, and then thinking that it's boring to do so. I'm sure it is, but it is so because you picked a boring number to use as a metric.

For the second point, the reason there is no catch-up mechanism is because catching up is not an applicable concept. Again, this problem stems from the expectations that EVE will work like your standard xp/level/class-based game out there, which it actually works in almost the exact opposite way. There is exactly one thing you can't will have trouble catching up with: total SP. As luck would have it, total SP is meaningless beyond making your clone more expensive. For everything else, not only is catching up possible — it's actually very very easy to the point of being inevitable. As such, it's not a particularly meaningful notion because nothing it measures is meaningful.

For the fourth point… well, yes. That's kind of the whole point of a sandbox: that you make up your own path and choose what to pursue.

Everyone i talk to IRL about eve thinks that it is impossible to catch up. And they are right....

No, they're just labouring under the incorrect assumption that EVE works like other MMOs in terms of character growth and power.
It is indeed a problem that this illusion isn't being dispelled by CCP and the players talking about it, but the problem is just that: that it's an illusion — not that it is actually the case in the game.

I don't know.. a few months or so?
But shouldn't the question in a game be "How long do I have to wait until I can have fun?"

I personally are someone who -hates- to do things I don't like just for the promise to have fun later maybe.
I think you can have fun in eve from the start. At least that's my experience so far.

Have fun on the way towards your goals. Have intermediate goals as well.

Long. But in other MMOs you would not be able to raid the "hardcore endgame content" either within a few weeks. The exception is, that in EvE, there is sooo much to do while you are skilling up for your titan, while in other MMOs its mostly just a grind to "get to the top" fastest. Because you cannot participate in PvP or whatever without having reached the max level. In Eve there is barely anything you will NEED a titan for.

Besides, choosing the most extreme of all examples to prove your point is... interesting. Because in most areas (one on one pvp for example. That is usually not done in titans but rather in cruisers or the like) you will catch up really fast. At least skillwise. That you are going to loose anyway (probably) to an 5-year-old character has nothing to with him having 2 or 3 skills at level 5 more than you do.

What is it with this "afraid" of EVE nonsense ?

Some things just don't appeal to everyone. It has nothing to do with being "afraid".

I have absolutely no desire to see any of the sparkly "Twilight" films, and I absolutely never will. I'm just not interested at all, and for a lot of reasons.

But being "afraid" of the films is not even remotely a reason, and I'm sure it's the same for those not interested in EVE.

The ones claiming that people are "afraid" of EVE are just EGO-STROKING ADHD-riddled Basement Dwellers using their miniscule communicative and rhetorical skills to prove to themselves they are better than everyone else for liking something that others could care less about.

It's only a game people. That's all it will ever be. It matters not at all in the grand scheme of things.

Might have been true 7 years ago. Nowadays you can get battleship in a few weeks and do level 4s. I've trained plenty of "peasants" over the years and they tend to have a fun time, even with me harping on them to train their support skills. If you're not capable of or do not take pleasure on making a plan and setting a goal while learning the game, if the only game you care about is the "endgame," then you should either quit or purchase a high-sp cahracter. Its wrong to assume everyone else is like you. For one, they tend to just quit if they don't like it rather than troll the forums for days.



Who gives a flying **** about a widow? Impatient people with a poor understanding of the game flying expensive ships are ALWAYS a liability, regardless of the number of SP they may have.



Its not even a valid question, because you don't put your main in a titan, its a coffin. You buy/train an alt and put him in a titan. If you had enough isk (scamming, market, theft, RL money -> plex), you could be in a titan in just a few days.

We need this guy in a Titan. I could do with an easy kill of that magnitude