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Worlds Within a World - The EVE Universe Monument

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Lucy tzung
Doomheim
#401 - 2014-02-17 02:48:10 UTC
just the engraving must cost a bomb, wouldn't it be better spent on a game? a game like say erm...... EvE? I mean its a cool idea but isn't it a waste of money?

Frying Doom
#402 - 2014-02-17 06:47:23 UTC
Darek Castigatus wrote:
BuckStrider wrote:
Frying Doom wrote:
Personally I think they should get rid of this idea and just donate the money to Seans widow.

Do some good in this world, not just a make yourself feel good monument.


Better idea.

Donate the money and hire somebody to get Seans killers



This isn't just about Vile Rat.

No its not but giving his widow money would do a lot more real world good than a bloody monument, in Iceland.

Any spelling, grammatical and punctuation errors are because frankly, I don't care!!

Darek Castigatus
Immortalis Inc.
Shadow Cartel
#403 - 2014-02-17 16:19:50 UTC
Frying Doom wrote:
Darek Castigatus wrote:
BuckStrider wrote:
Frying Doom wrote:
Personally I think they should get rid of this idea and just donate the money to Seans widow.

Do some good in this world, not just a make yourself feel good monument.


Better idea.

Donate the money and hire somebody to get Seans killers



This isn't just about Vile Rat.

No its not but giving his widow money would do a lot more real world good than a bloody monument, in Iceland.


And what about every other eve player who'se passed away over the last ten and a bit years, you honestly want to deny them a chance to be remembered by their community for the sake of one man who already has more stuff dedicated to him than any of us will ever see.

Dont get me wrong, Vile Rats name should be high and proud on that monument and you can bold his name and engrave it in gold leaf with arrows pointing at it if you must, just dont try and deny other peoples chance to be there while you do.

Pirates - The Invisible Fist of Darwin

you're welcome

BrundleMeth
State War Academy
Caldari State
#404 - 2014-02-17 17:20:39 UTC  |  Edited by: BrundleMeth
Darek Castigatus wrote:
Frying Doom wrote:
Darek Castigatus wrote:
BuckStrider wrote:
Frying Doom wrote:
Personally I think they should get rid of this idea and just donate the money to Seans widow.

Do some good in this world, not just a make yourself feel good monument.


Better idea.

Donate the money and hire somebody to get Seans killers



This isn't just about Vile Rat.

No its not but giving his widow money would do a lot more real world good than a bloody monument, in Iceland.


And what about every other eve player who'se passed away over the last ten and a bit years, you honestly want to deny them a chance to be remembered by their community for the sake of one man who already has more stuff dedicated to him than any of us will ever see.

Dont get me wrong, Vile Rats name should be high and proud on that monument and you can bold his name and engrave it in gold leaf with arrows pointing at it if you must, just dont try and deny other peoples chance to be there while you do.

I was thinking the same but didn't want to get flamed all over the place. Other players have also died, think of them too...
Sayen Everstar
WDB01
#405 - 2014-02-17 18:43:15 UTC
How does one opt out from having their name plastered on this obscenity?
BrundleMeth
State War Academy
Caldari State
#406 - 2014-02-17 19:16:41 UTC
Sayen Everstar wrote:
How does one opt out from having their name plastered on this obscenity?

How many are going to ask this same question? Read the article. It says you can't opt out. NO exceptions... None, zero, nada, no body...
Sayen Everstar
WDB01
#407 - 2014-02-17 20:22:58 UTC
BrundleMeth wrote:
Sayen Everstar wrote:
How does one opt out from having their name plastered on this obscenity?

How many are going to ask this same question? Read the article. It says you can't opt out. NO exceptions... None, zero, nada, no body...


be so good as to point me to where it says this, as I've read a number of pieces about this POS and nothing said anything about being unable to opt out!
Zedik
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#408 - 2014-02-18 00:36:15 UTC
If you can't opt out, don't worry too much. The names are being etched onto metal... on a monument. Nature will erase the names before too long. Several things on this monument don't make any sense. It isn't particularly good looking. It is simple, small, and constructed of materials that won't last for ages. They are putting in a computer as a time capsule. Hard drives aren't stone tablets sealed from the elements, they have a finite useful lifespan. Nothing I've seen about this monument shows that they are constructing it monumentally. But maybe it is more meta than I am giving it credit for. MMO's are, at their core, a waste of time and money. So is the monument. Now that I've thought about it, it does seem fitting.
Dinger
Task Force Delta-14
#409 - 2014-02-18 17:49:26 UTC
Malcanis wrote:
Dinsdale Pirannha wrote:
How many precious CCP resources are being thrown at this statue?
How many coding-months dedicated to fixing / overhauling legacy code could have been purchased for the cost of this monument to the hubris of some people?

Eve is a virtual world.
What is the point of a statue that the vast vast majority of the player base will never see, and most will never even hear about?
CCP would have been better off coding this monument into the game and placing it in Jita.

It would have more value to more of the player base.



How many old players will resub to get their name on the monument?
How many will stick around for a while when they see how much has changed in EVE since they played?
How many extra devs will CCP be able to afford with all this extra sub money?

And most importantly of all, how will all this nerf hi-sec?


I resub'd for this, I played long enough in my time and feel I had enough of an impact in my own way to have my name up there with the rest of the playerbase.

That said I will not be staying for now, because as others have already stated the issues which made me quit in the first intance haven't changed, in spite of even your efforts Malcanis, which are appreciated.

Hi-sec for me personally has never been the issue, aside from a few rare intances it's dull as dishwater these days, however Null sec is even worse and nerfing hi-sec is not going to change that in any way. Null is still controlled by broken sovereignty mechanics determined by massive HP structures and timers, which combined with the abilty for entire alliances to jump from one end of the map to the other and back again in an afternoon result more often than not in joyless dogpile TiDi lagfests like was recently seen in HED-GP. I personally have no interest in, and will not waste my time, money and effort on such "fun" content.

I don't know how much CCP will ultimately make out of this monument deal, and to be honest I don't really care. The monument in of itself is a nice idea and is more than enough for me at this time, how many other game devs do you see out there who will take the time and effort to organise something like this for their playerbase.

That said I will say if CCP does make any appreciable amount of money out of this thing that I hope they do bring in a few more devs and invest some serious time and effort into fixing the problems that while they may not be killing the game are certainly holding it back at this point. Bringing Dust514 to the PC and integrating it into the Eve client along with opening the damned door would be a nice set of secondary goals if there's anything left after thatSmile


MatrixSkye Mk2 wrote:
Dammit. Now I'm gonna have to go to Iceland Evil. Now, is there anything else to see in Iceland worth the trip so I don't have to admit to wifey that, secretly, it's all about the monument?


The Blue Lagoon and the glaciers are well worth a trip if you want to venture beyond the city, I'm told the Golden Circle tour is good as well but haven't done it myself, most of the decent hotels should be able to advise good sights also. If you're looking to stay local the Perlan centre, the shopping districts and the downtown nightlife are all worth checking out, there's whale watching tours operating from the dockyard and not forgetting of course the Red Chilli restaurants (one near the Nordica the other in the city centre IIRC) which are great eateries if you're a carnivore.
Kane Ascendant
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#410 - 2014-02-20 01:11:47 UTC
Hey I think all of the eve online pvp fanfest winners should be on the statue !!
Suffering Shadow
Heaven's Harvesters
#411 - 2014-02-20 21:35:35 UTC
Quote:
This list of active, paying players
..only the ones who are paying with real currency or also the ones who are paying with plexes?
Darek Castigatus
Immortalis Inc.
Shadow Cartel
#412 - 2014-02-21 02:15:23 UTC

'On Saturday, 1 March 2014, the die for this snapshot of New Eden will be taken and over half a million names will be frozen in time, with the highest skilled character from every active EVE Online account on this day joined together as part of Worlds Within a World.'

is what CCP Falcon said in his bit on this so I don't see why PLEXed accounts would be excluded.

Pirates - The Invisible Fist of Darwin

you're welcome

Thylbana Nyx
Caldari Tax-Dodgers
#413 - 2014-02-21 08:58:31 UTC  |  Edited by: Thylbana Nyx
Quote:
'On Saturday, 1 March 2014, the die for this snapshot of New Eden will be taken and over half a million names will be frozen in time, with the highest skilled character from every active EVE Online account on this day joined together as part of Worlds Within a World.'


DOH! I have my first character I ever made, but I don't care for the name I used (sounded cool in my head. Didn't work in reality). I've been taking what I consider my "main character" and trying to catch up, but I'm currently 8 mil skill points away from overtaking my original character. So now my old character will be etched in this monument or I delete and lose 8 million skill points (with associated benefits).

CCP! WHY CAN YOU NOT HAVE A SIMPLE RENAME FUNCTION!!! X

Couldn't we say use the character from our Forum?! Put a note on the game launcher, make sure the character you want on the monument is your avatar for the Forums before March 1st, 2014. That way we can make sure we have the character we want. I am probably a rare case, but I know I can't be the ONLY case.

Just a thought.
Einar Matveinen
Mahe Ratu
#414 - 2014-02-22 13:06:36 UTC
How could we know what character in our accounts is the main character?. After eight years i don't know exactly what character in my account is defined in the database as main, for me is this character but i don't want surprises when the monument is released...
Darek Castigatus
Immortalis Inc.
Shadow Cartel
#415 - 2014-02-22 13:15:12 UTC
Einar Matveinen wrote:
How could we know what character in our accounts is the main character?. After eight years i don't know exactly what character in my account is defined in the database as main, for me is this character but i don't want surprises when the monument is released...


According to CCP falcon its the character with the highest SP on the account

Pirates - The Invisible Fist of Darwin

you're welcome

Einar Matveinen
Mahe Ratu
#416 - 2014-02-22 13:42:12 UTC
Darek Castigatus wrote:
According to CCP falcon its the character with the highest SP on the account


Ok, thanks! :)
Tres Farmer
Gallente Federation Intelligence Service
#417 - 2014-02-25 05:34:22 UTC
Thylbana Nyx wrote:
Quote:
'On Saturday, 1 March 2014, the die for this snapshot of New Eden will be taken and over half a million names will be frozen in time, with the highest skilled character from every active EVE Online account on this day joined together as part of Worlds Within a World.'


DOH! I have my first character I ever made, but I don't care for the name I used (sounded cool in my head. Didn't work in reality). I've been taking what I consider my "main character" and trying to catch up, but I'm currently 8 mil skill points away from overtaking my original character. So now my old character will be etched in this monument or I delete and lose 8 million skill points (with associated benefits).

CCP! WHY CAN YOU NOT HAVE A SIMPLE RENAME FUNCTION!!! X

Couldn't we say use the character from our Forum?! Put a note on the game launcher, make sure the character you want on the monument is your avatar for the Forums before March 1st, 2014. That way we can make sure we have the character we want. I am probably a rare case, but I know I can't be the ONLY case.

Just a thought.


If it's so important to you, open up a new account and transfer your wanted char over.. this way you'll be on the monument twice and CCP got 1 more active account during the month ;-)



As for me as you can see me, I re-subbed for this for 1 month, can't miss being on a statue somewhere.
Tres won't be on the monument though, as it's just my forum whore :p

@CCP
Thanks and do something useful with the money.
Telemicus Thrace
Lucky Fedo Trading Co.
#418 - 2014-02-25 11:24:40 UTC
I re-subbed for this. I don't play games much these days but I'll jump in my old Wolf and go see what's new. Maybe I'll stay, maybe I won't, we'll see.

For all the nostalgia, for all the years I played this EVEry EVEning , for the friends I made (and those I still still hang out with)... I had to get in on this. So many memories of the Unity wars, Interdiction, the fall of ISS, the first Nyx. As soon as the client downloads I'm going to have to see how Ushra'Khan are doing.

When my kids are old enough I'll be taking them to visit their ancestral homeland in Europe (we live in Australia now). When I am there I plan to visit Iceland and see some of the sights written about in the sagas. It would be awesome to find this monument still there, make it durable.

Big smile
Lucy tzung
Doomheim
#419 - 2014-02-25 15:24:50 UTC
would be cool to see an in game replica of the monument on a planet though.
Tomash Kovahlsky
Polish Task Forces
Res-Publica
#420 - 2014-02-26 00:32:54 UTC
Malcanis wrote:
Dinsdale Pirannha wrote:
Malcanis wrote:
Dinsdale Pirannha wrote:
How many precious CCP resources are being thrown at this statue?
How many coding-months dedicated to fixing / overhauling legacy code could have been purchased for the cost of this monument to the hubris of some people?

Eve is a virtual world.
What is the point of a statue that the vast vast majority of the player base will never see, and most will never even hear about?
CCP would have been better off coding this monument into the game and placing it in Jita.

It would have more value to more of the player base.



How many old players will resub to get their name on the monument?
How many will stick around for a while when they see how much has changed in EVE since they played?
How many extra devs will CCP be able to afford with all this extra sub money?

And most importantly of all, how will all this nerf hi-sec?


Really, you think a ton of players will burn 12 or 15 dollars/ pounds to re-sub to get their player name engraved on a rock?


I do.


I just resubscribed - on 3 accounts - after a 1.5yr break.