Player Features and Ideas Discussion

Or everything else that's broken or missing, like MJD timers!

the scan inhibitor is 50 m3, a cheetah with 3 T2 expanders and 2 T1 rigs holds 548 m3. you'd have to risk your blockade runner to be a real nuisance.
also with 45k HP they will die to even small fleets quickly, like while the scanner is getting 100% on the rest of the inhibitors.

Of course you never know what is inside...

I think it will make some great content :D

Fozzie, get yourself an alt and join any decent wormhole alliance. Maybe that will let you know that your idea of the game is not always same with how people play and want to play it.

No, it's fine as is. You won't be able to blast T1 frigs in a linked and snaked rlml Cerberus anymore, but brawling is viable again.

Adapt or die and all that

The MMJD unit really, really needs to be suppressed by any and all forms of warp interdiction. Local bubbles, anchored bubbles, long points, scrams, infinite points - presently only two of these suppress the MMJD and all five should. Edit for correction: Only one of these suppresses the MMJD now, I was wrong about infinite points, this has no effect on the case I was making as infinite pointing a subcap is rare.

There is a big difference between a 'My ship can escape' tool that requires moderate fitting sacrifices, and a 'My whole fleet can escape' tool that only slightly cuts into the amount of ammunition you can carry and has no other meaningful cost. As someone that likes selling to both sides of the various null wars, I do not want my clients being able to extract three-quarters of their ships from a lost fight by having everyone drop one of these then use the ones that don't get popped.

I also believe these MMJDs should have paper-thin EHP prior to being completely anchored. Cruiser EHP once they are anchored is fine, but in that 20 second anchoring time they should be no more durable than a capsule.



As for the scan inhibitors - these are going to be spammed in numbers that you would not believe. I really think these should have paper-thin EHP (akin to a capsule) even when anchored, cost at least as much as a fitted cruiser to reduce spamming, and they should appear on the overview like cynos (in which case they need to be banned from trade hubs and not be renamable), or at the least they should appear on the discovery scanner like anomolies.

In their present incarnation, there will likely be 100+ MSIs at any time in any system in which a fleet fight is expected to occur.

No, RLM cerbs will still be just as "good" vs frigs, since they can kill them before the thing onlines. In fact, by the time the thing finishes going online, you will be just about ready to reload anyway, so that works out perfect for you.

But say a slicer vs a propless incursus? Gl.

Or ham caracal vs rupture? Again, gl.

Artycane vs any other bc? Nope.

The scan inhibitor is a major nerf to d-scan and to the chance to find people in a system, sounds like horrible. Will not improve "traps" or anything, will only discourage people to chace others and in general make people harder to be found (while, on the countrary, the godlike intel from local stay the same).

Ratters will spam systms of scan inibhitors (just the first thing coming in my mind: one for each belt) and good luck in catching anyone, with or without a probe scanner.

PVE fleet is usually not willing to take part in PVP. This makes this task lot easier.
The only plus for those liking to PVP is their own PVE will be be more safe. But the problem for those liking to PVP in wormholes is that hell lot of pure carebears around, who want nothing but farm. And for those that's a HUGE present.

For PVP - dropping this thing on hole changes little. Few will commit to the hole-brawl without a scanner jumping the other side.



Much as I'd like to disagree, it really looks like he is willing to drive us out of our home. Wasn't it him to say, that T3s should be nerfed?

But we are not a so small part of the community (remember that topic?)! And many of us will not play, I think. if forced to change our play-style and get back to k-space.

If the fleet isn't densely packed, they can still extract a lot of ships with these.

Think in a 25 v 22 fight, where the 25 decide they are losing and want to extract. Presently, they order MJD ships to evacuate to sniper range and shoot at both anchored bubbles and ships with local bubbles, then they try to warp, and they lose 7 or 8 stragglers that get pointed or scrammed as well as the 7 or 8 ships that get popped while they are shooting bubbles and/or dictors, so perhaps 10 ships escape.

In the MMJD era, the 25 all drop MMJDs. 18 actually start anchoring (the others are too close), 13 MMJDUs actually anchor and 5 get popped while anchoring. Then those ships with local MJDs use those, then the remaining ships all use an MMJD if they can. Chances are you get a good 16 to 18 of your fleet out alive, a big increase on 10 in the first example.

Or infinite point, right? Which is of course a bit of overkill but might happen from time to time.

Or am I wrong on that one?