Player Features and Ideas Discussion

Bullshit. Thats what you bear-rats have had for years. How do you think you are entitled to blow up another player that doesn't make any mistakes?

Why should aggressors have all the advantages? If anything, defenders should have the advantage. God forbid pirates should have to take any real risks, right?
Sorry kids, 100% intel days are over. Time to HTFU.

This is just what i'm talking about, just because you come into the system, everyone is forced to stop what they are doing and wait you out. Getting into any ships to fight you causes you to flee. MSI takes away the power your mere presence has and forces you to take a risk for a greater chance at a reward. You can't pick and chose all your engagements anymore if you want to be an aggressor. Risk/reward should be for all, and MSI is an excellent balancing tool.

I can't believe you are complaining about wormholes. As an aggressor, you have the advantage of gathering intel on your opponents that they don't have, you know where they live and can get their numbers. With a little preparation, you shouldn't have any problems catching people and avoiding what you can't handle. But you EVE pirates have never been known for being very bright, just for having it easy.

It could be interesting if it was made alongside local changes. For a complete metagame change. But as it is.. is just another ave the failbears" module.
But the greatest offfender is the other.

are you trolling?if so, pls stop
if not... let me give you a piece of advice: stay in high sec! there are no risks there.... oh wait, in fact there are some risks even there...
s let me try another piece of advice: don't undock! you may lose your ship, you know...

What about hiding wormhole entrances? What about laying drag bubble traps on soem eclestials exaclty to catch peopel tryign to do what you describe?


The simple option of hiding a wormhole entrance is enough so that this should be blocked until its solved.

+1. I mean, if I find myself agreeing with a Grath post, there most be some truth in there.

That is the problem with the MSI, its being done in separate to a MUCH neede revamp of local. IF this was done with a remake on all intel systems, everythign would be ok.

We, rampaging solo carebears, welcome those new structures. Exactly the way they are suggested.

Let me try with an example.

I spend most of my EVE time (limited to few hours per week due to real life) roaming FW plexes searching for suitable a 1vs1 engagment.
9 out of 10 this resolve in people warping away as I enter the plex, but is fine so, when I find one the fun compensate all.

Now, if I see a MSI on scan is not going to be "wow, exciting, some secret activiting is going on here, let me explore this player created content".
I know what this secret, exciting actrivity is: someone is orbiting a button. So there're only 2 options:

1. he's alone but will not engage anyway (otherwise why to set up a MSI?) and will warp away (cause he see me, his d-scan is not nerfed like mine) helped further more by the added MSI delay.

2. is a blob trap and I'd be stupid engaging.

In repsect of this there's no incentive to find it out, what should I explore?? Is more exciting to keep jumping trough the Amamake-Ossongur gate. I will skip and warp to the next system. So it only translate in more time spent in warp and more room for the plexer to earn their LP undisturbed.

Is not a risk added (anyway I close the evening with some ship loss, is not relevant to me) or new tactic or opportunities, is simply less gameplay, more delays and deadtimes, more boredom.

In null will be similar. There's a belt covered by an MSI? What kind of clandestine activity is goin on? We already know: someone is mining and using the MSI to add a further delay for neutrals. Or is a blob trap.

People is not going to change their security procedures, they will keep docking as a neutral arrive, using bubble to prevent fast warp in belt and so on. MSi only add more margin to this, add more safety discouragging neutrals/hostiles not due to added risk but trough added delay and boredom.

We can say this is good or needed. But please don't insult our intelligence trying to sell us as new gameplay opportunities, it is - sic et simpliciter - a buff to farming and a nerf for players interactions.

yet will continue to die liek sheeps.

The problem liies on peopel with brains enough to sue them well (and that exclude carebears).



The Deplyable jump thing is what will !@##!@ the game.

It furthers push the game into blasters range only. I know current generation of devs love blasters. But this is getting ridiculous.

9 km is the new LONG range now, since anything over that and ANY ship can escape. Since no ship can defeat gallente ships at that range..

WELCOME to the most stupidly unbalanced metagame of eve history. Also say goodbye to solo and near solo pvp because short poitns have too short range to get anyone at gates except by sheer luck.

These jump structures are the most overpowered thing ever suggested in this game. They make the remote trough cyno AOE doomsdays look like wellt ought and balanced devices!