Player Features and Ideas Discussion

Would it help make the ship useable if they gave it a covops jump drive with a brand-new "SoE bridge generator" that can only be used by SoE ships, a clone bay, an SoE-only AoE doomsday that fully repairs all allied ships within 100km (useable once an hour), made the ring on the front rotate and gave it roving searchlights underneath?

Step 1: Make black ops able to create short lived (4 hours?) Wormholes that lead to a random system. The module has a long cool down ( also 4 hours?). Now Black Ops are useful in wormhole space.

Step 2: Make the Nestor a Black Ops ship. Now the scan bonuses make sense.

Ok, I know making the Nestor a Black Ops when it is just a faction BS is skipping a step, so step 2 could be make a blops version of the Nestor. The Nestor will be on par with other faction BS if a little confused but the blops version makes sense.

Doesn't need to be a full blops, just needs a jump drive.

....the screams about the train for JDC V will be legendary if they did it though.

I really don't think allowing the ship to use 10 drones would even be overpowered, as long as it could only field 10 mediums or smalls. It would also work nicely with a bonus to repair drones too (in keeping with the logistics idea). In fact I'd really, really prefer this over yet another sentry battleship. You can blop sentry battleships. You can't blob with combat drones, they'll just get smartbombed.

It would also be such a novelty that a lot of players would really want to fly one, instead of this complete mess we have now.

A jump drive, especially a covert capable one, would be a massive boost to the Nestor's ability to travel around Kspace but wouldn't help it at all in Wspace, where its reduced mass will really shine. A cloaked movement bonus would allow the Nestor to travel much more quickly from wormhole to wormhole, scouting its way through and running any sites it finds. I think a lot of us agree that the probe bonus is nothing more than a curiosity as no self respecting BS pilot would fly through hostile space without a scout, but the virus strength bonus and reduced mass would make it viable for running wh ghost sites and supporting a small fleet in combat. The major problem though is it would spend far to much time exposed and vulnerable without a cloak speed bonus to allow it to avoid detection and align cloaked.

EDIT: I'm not saying that having both wouldn't be awesome and allow the ship to roam where ever the wind takes it along side it's smaller cousins. Just that CCP needs to decide where they envision the Nestor being flown primarily, whether it is through the wild spaces of Anoikis, or the lawless expanses of New Eden.

My Impression of putting the virus stregth bonus on a Battleship hull is for use in high level Ghost sites since you don't need to travel very far for the first can and can survive the damage. I agree with you that the Stratios performs extremely well for Data/Relic sites both in wh and Kspace and has been shown to handle Ghost sites but only by sacrificing a lot for added tank.

Drone use in whs is more difficult than anywhere else but is still effective. As the only weapon system, drones will get eaten by sleepers but when your ship can draw aggro with turrets of its own and is careful to keep its drones within easy recall range then they are still viable as a weapon system. Both of these capabilities are within the Nestor's capability by deploying sentries for long/med ranges and light drones for frigates that get close.

To be clear I don't want to restrict the Nestor into wh exploration. I am an exploration pilot that spends about the same amount of time roaming low, null, and wh and enjoy each for their challenges and rewards. I mearly wish to allow the Nestor to reach its full potential and see as much of the universe as I do.

P.S. Battleships are fleet vessels for the exact reason that they are easily tackled and countered by fast ships getting under their guns. A scout would check to see if there was a tackler on the other side of a jump, while a cloak would be to avoid giving the enemy the ability to easily pin its location down since the only time it would need to decloak would be right before entering warp. This can be utilized anywhere to move between systems but only if your cloaked velocity is equal to or greater than your max velocity. A jump drive accomplishes the same thing while in Kspace with a scout checking for danger before calling it in with the added bonus of landing wherever you want to in the system.

Very nice design, finaly we have the ship that have no ups and downs, only back and front.

Unfortunately, what I know about a Stratios' ability in ghost sites is second and third hand so I would point you to Podcasts or blogs for fit suggestions. I agree that a PVE fit ship needs to be as survivable and profitable as possible with solo ships able to disengage quickly and fleets able to withstand a gank. I also agree that drones can be difficult to manage at the best of times and are generally less than ideal for wh and pvp. However, they do offer an unchallenged amount of flexibility on the fly, especially when you consider the size of SoE drone bays. Sentries sniping pluses can be swapped out in seconds for med drones to attack that cruiser uncloaking off your port side, light drones to engage the frigate hounding your fleet mate, or ECM to gtfo.

As for Logi drones I haven't the faintest idea. I have never actually seen one used, even by the few Onerios pilots I have had the pleasure of flying with.

Wormhole lookouts FTW.