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Loot Spew 4 Months Later

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Omnathious Deninard
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#1 - 2013-10-21 10:53:31 UTC  |  Edited by: Omnathious Deninard
As 4 months have past what is your view on the loot spew mechinac.

(Post comments about hacking mini-game here.)

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Batelle
Federal Navy Academy
#2 - 2013-10-21 14:53:26 UTC
I just tried loot spew for the first time this week and I think its awful. It also seems a bit silly that of the 5 types of containers, only 1-2 of the types ever have anything worth going for. Its interesting that they made use of the cargo scanner, but really, the whole thing is just insult to injury. If we beat the damn minigame, then just give us the bacon already! The fact that ship agility plays a role, and you can't see what type a container is without mousing over it first are just stupid. Lastly, you're double clicking on stuff to get your ship to approach, yet often your ship gets hung up on the damn structure! Is there some way to tell which side the loot spew will come from?

There's no OTHER reason to bring a second character in besides the loot spew either. I think CCP got a little overzealous in making bot-proof gameplay.

Lastly, I do like the minigame.

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Zhilia Mann
Tide Way Out Productions
#3 - 2013-10-21 15:41:27 UTC
Still awful, still insulting. The minigame is at least some sort of game play element that increases player interaction (ie, blowing up covops frigs while they hack) but the loot spew doesn't accomplish anything but frustration. Without it I'd probably still run at least some professional sites in full but as is I'll scan for blueprints and just grab data cans if I see one I like. Nothing else is worth the random clicking, at least not to me. Though I fully respect all the people who are still doing it; keep those decryptor prices low!
Daniel Plain
Doomheim
#4 - 2013-10-21 16:40:35 UTC
i can only imagine the overlap between people who are dedicated enough to learn EVE and simple-minded enough to enjoy the simplistic loot spew mechanic to be very small, thus the feature is most likely highly annoying for a majority of the population.

I should buy an Ishtar.
Sexy Cakes
Have A Seat
#5 - 2013-10-21 16:51:32 UTC
Daniel Plain wrote:
i can only imagine the overlap between people who are dedicated enough to learn EVE and simple-minded enough to enjoy the simplistic loot spew mechanic to be very small, thus the feature is most likely highly annoying for a majority of the population.


Couldn't have said it better myself.

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Thanos The Mad-Titan
Hedion University
Amarr Empire
#6 - 2013-10-21 18:49:14 UTC
click the first data or parts container you see, mouseover as many as you can till you find data, click data and parts, accidentally click scraps, double click on parts as a response, ships goes off, alt-space, sigh and alt-C to see if your stuff is worth anything.

OR

Get loot in return for winning the mini-game, not second mini-game to see what your reward for the first mini-game is


Current iteration is awful
Julius Priscus
#7 - 2013-10-21 19:04:30 UTC
I used to enjoy hacking and the other mini professions..

now its just a waste of skill points in its present carnation. I regret skilling up them mini profession skills to 5 for now.
Batelle
Federal Navy Academy
#8 - 2013-10-21 19:32:42 UTC
Thanos The Mad-Titan wrote:


Get loot in return for winning the mini-game, not second mini-game to see what your reward for the first mini-game is


THIS

"**CCP is changing policy, and has asked that we discontinue the bonus credit program after November 7th. So until then, enjoy a super-bonus of 1B Blink Credit for each 60-day GTC you buy!"**

Never forget.
Laiannah Sahireen
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#9 - 2013-10-21 20:06:12 UTC
I echo the sentiments of everybody else in this thread, but I'd like to add that the COSMOS sites are now an exercise in futility and frustration. There's no rhyme or reason to what items drop in which cans and in some cases I swear I've grabbed everything but the scraps cans and still don't get the item I saw on the cargo scan.

I would love nothing more than the current hacking mini-game minus the frustrating loot spew.
Marcus Walkuris
Aww yeahhh
#10 - 2013-10-21 20:08:46 UTC
Rofl such gallow humor to me this is.
I actually wanted to get into the whole hacking scene, I saw the changes in the expansion and I shut that down hard lol.
Shame cause I was looking forward to playing that part of the game, I really enjoyed going around scanning too (EvE fishing).
Getting something that was hard to scan but useless was still fun, always someone I could make happy with a gravimetric scan if just for going in there with cameras and oohhhs and ahhsss.
Julius Priscus
#11 - 2013-10-21 20:24:52 UTC
Marcus Walkuris wrote:
Rofl such gallow humor to me this is.
I actually wanted to get into the whole hacking scene, I saw the changes in the expansion and I shut that down hard lol.
Shame cause I was looking forward to playing that part of the game, I really enjoyed going around scanning too (EvE fishing).
Getting something that was hard to scan but useless was still fun, always someone I could make happy with a gravimetric scan if just for going in there with cameras and oohhhs and ahhsss.



I used to bring all my probes down to 25 au and nearly ontop of each other as well as faction items to improve scan str, I would find almost any site and that's with lvl 4 skills, I would drop one probe and have a good idea what was in local and scan it down.

as I have said before... if your hacking results score higher then the amount of cans "spewed" out should drop accordingly. if you do really badly then there should be lots and lots aka several. if you do really well. then at best a jet can with everything or just 1-3 cans running away.
Tauranon
Weeesearch
CAStabouts
#12 - 2013-10-22 00:13:05 UTC
I almost don't lose any "valuable" loot to spew. Just get the first can in super pronto.

Also I now get heron spawns in my relics, and the herons usually have more in them than any can does.
Rexxorr
Perkone
Caldari State
#13 - 2013-10-22 00:42:06 UTC
Tried the new hacking mini game last week, loot spew is just god awful.
Tzar Sinak
Mythic Heights
#14 - 2013-10-22 11:45:12 UTC
It is still a very weak mechanic. It is one of those things that needs to be removed but you know it never will.

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Myriad Blaze
Common Sense Ltd
Nulli Secunda
#15 - 2013-10-22 12:10:48 UTC  |  Edited by: Myriad Blaze
Loot spew is awful and annoying.

Although I usually get the valuable stuff or at least most of it, I no longer care and shelved my explorer frigate.
However, recently I started to go exploring again. I just changed my approach. Instead of using a Helios fitted for hacking relic and data sites I use a Nemesis fitted for ganking light vessels. Last weekend I fielded it for the first time. But I got bored after waiting one hour without someone showing up, so I'm still waiting for my first kill. Maybe I need to find a better place to play hide and seek than where I was.
Batelle
Federal Navy Academy
#16 - 2013-10-22 15:19:58 UTC  |  Edited by: Batelle
Marcus Walkuris wrote:
Rofl such gallow humor to me this is.
I actually wanted to get into the whole hacking scene, I saw the changes in the expansion and I shut that down hard lol.
Shame cause I was looking forward to playing that part of the game, I really enjoyed going around scanning too (EvE fishing).


It wasn't exactly fun before either, just less annoying. Arrive at site, kill rats, open scan, kill newly spawned rats. Wait for like 20 cycles until it opens. Get loot. IMO before it was even worse, because of rats, and because without lvl 5 in the skill it would just take forever. Now with lvl 4 and a bonused ship you can still do it quite reasonably even in null. The big difference is the loot spew is the same in highsec and nullsec. I can stomach the loot spew better if there's something good to get in the can.

"**CCP is changing policy, and has asked that we discontinue the bonus credit program after November 7th. So until then, enjoy a super-bonus of 1B Blink Credit for each 60-day GTC you buy!"**

Never forget.
Ginger Barbarella
#17 - 2013-10-22 18:56:20 UTC
Ran a single high sec combat anom last night, the boss ship dropped a single faction module (other stuff, too, but still) worth 50x what the last 10 relic & data sites have dropped (not counting the usual garbage) combined.

Nuff said.

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Davion Falcon
Those Once Loyal
#18 - 2013-10-23 03:14:19 UTC
It's still bloody annoying.

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Marcus Walkuris
Aww yeahhh
#19 - 2013-10-23 08:56:46 UTC
Definitely not debating wether its better isk now then back then.
Or wether its "worth" it but i'll take tedious over stressful any day.
Racing after vanishing cans, just to be left wondering what you missed in the other can regardless of wether you get good loot but worse so if you get ******.
It is just too "Obsessive Compulsive Disorder action packed" not to mention a permanently raised muscle tension.
Looks to be stressful and not like a good adrenaline rushed PvP or a dangerous outgunned PvE encounter.
Spankijs Omaristos
Royal Amarr Institute
Amarr Empire
#20 - 2013-10-23 11:31:39 UTC
Omnathious Deninard wrote:
As 4 months have past what is your view on the loot spew mechinac.

(Post comments about hacking mini-game here.)


Its Annoying. No Exploration for me :D
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