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Announcement regarding rewards and prizes to fansites and third-party contributors

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Kate stark
#1681 - 2013-12-15 12:56:34 UTC
Anya Klibor wrote:
From SOMER's site:

"GTC Discount With Blink

From now until the end of 2013, receive a 10% discount on 30 and 60-Day timecodes purchased through Blink's link! Just use our link, and use the coupon code "SOMERBLINK" at checkout to receive 10% off every code.

We may have additional announcements about GTC soon, and any codes purchased since the bonus went away on November 7th will receive any future benefits retroactively."

Discount is fine. Other possibilities apparently exist for them, though. This could be interesting.


so somer have made that much isk they can cash out at a lower isk -> $ ratio in order to increase volume of transactions?

Yay, this account hasn't had its signature banned. or its account, if you're reading this.

Steve Ronuken
Fuzzwork Enterprises
Vote Steve Ronuken for CSM
#1682 - 2013-12-15 19:53:52 UTC
Kate stark wrote:
Anya Klibor wrote:
From SOMER's site:

"GTC Discount With Blink

From now until the end of 2013, receive a 10% discount on 30 and 60-Day timecodes purchased through Blink's link! Just use our link, and use the coupon code "SOMERBLINK" at checkout to receive 10% off every code.

We may have additional announcements about GTC soon, and any codes purchased since the bonus went away on November 7th will receive any future benefits retroactively."

Discount is fine. Other possibilities apparently exist for them, though. This could be interesting.


so somer have made that much isk they can cash out at a lower isk -> $ ratio in order to increase volume of transactions?



What isk->$ ratio?

They're not giving away any ISK with the GTCs now. They're getting less $ with each transaction. That's it.

Woo! CSM XI!

Fuzzwork Enterprises

Twitter: @fuzzysteve on Twitter

Kate stark
#1683 - 2013-12-15 19:59:42 UTC  |  Edited by: Kate stark
Steve Ronuken wrote:
Kate stark wrote:
Anya Klibor wrote:
From SOMER's site:

"GTC Discount With Blink

From now until the end of 2013, receive a 10% discount on 30 and 60-Day timecodes purchased through Blink's link! Just use our link, and use the coupon code "SOMERBLINK" at checkout to receive 10% off every code.

We may have additional announcements about GTC soon, and any codes purchased since the bonus went away on November 7th will receive any future benefits retroactively."

Discount is fine. Other possibilities apparently exist for them, though. This could be interesting.


so somer have made that much isk they can cash out at a lower isk -> $ ratio in order to increase volume of transactions?



What isk->$ ratio?

They're not giving away any ISK with the GTCs now. They're getting less $ with each transaction. That's it.


so they're just going with volume over margin then.

I'm not overly concerned with somers RMTing anyway, there are more important issues that are being ignored than who's ebaying their isk.

Yay, this account hasn't had its signature banned. or its account, if you're reading this.

Steve Ronuken
Fuzzwork Enterprises
Vote Steve Ronuken for CSM
#1684 - 2013-12-15 20:05:14 UTC
Kate stark wrote:
Steve Ronuken wrote:
Kate stark wrote:
Anya Klibor wrote:
From SOMER's site:

"GTC Discount With Blink

From now until the end of 2013, receive a 10% discount on 30 and 60-Day timecodes purchased through Blink's link! Just use our link, and use the coupon code "SOMERBLINK" at checkout to receive 10% off every code.

We may have additional announcements about GTC soon, and any codes purchased since the bonus went away on November 7th will receive any future benefits retroactively."

Discount is fine. Other possibilities apparently exist for them, though. This could be interesting.


so somer have made that much isk they can cash out at a lower isk -> $ ratio in order to increase volume of transactions?



What isk->$ ratio?

They're not giving away any ISK with the GTCs now. They're getting less $ with each transaction. That's it.


so they're just going with volume over margin then.



Yup, along with a side of 'we're trying to get something else for you'.

As long as that 'something else' isn't directly eve related (teamspeak hosting, or something.not ships/isk/credits to convert to ships/isk), it's pretty much fine. No impact on the sandbox.

Woo! CSM XI!

Fuzzwork Enterprises

Twitter: @fuzzysteve on Twitter

Deka Ekato
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#1685 - 2013-12-16 02:30:56 UTC
CCP, come on guys.

There are real issues here, and all the while Somer are laughing all the way to the bank, at your expense!
Archibald Thistlewaite III
The Royal Society for the Prevention of Miners
#1686 - 2013-12-16 06:18:16 UTC
So, Somer is still using Eve to run a business that makes them a RL income?

I thought that was a breach of the EULA.

User of 'Bumblefck's Luscious & Luminous Mustachio Wax'

Sara Rasa
Garoun Investment Bank
Gallente Federation
#1687 - 2013-12-16 16:05:20 UTC
Archibald Thistlewaite III wrote:
So, Somer is still using Eve to run a business that makes them a RL income?

I thought that was a breach of the EULA.



Only if YOU or I do it...
Sexy Cakes
Have A Seat
#1688 - 2013-12-16 19:13:35 UTC
Argus Sorn wrote:

CCP devs basically issued a full out endorsement for an entity that was proven to be RMT'ing to the tune of $40,000 a year.


This except take out the basically part.

CCP considers this matter resolved to the player base.

Bump this thread all you want but you got your answer, you just don't like it.

Not today spaghetti.

Kate stark
#1689 - 2013-12-16 21:05:07 UTC
Sexy Cakes wrote:
Argus Sorn wrote:

CCP devs basically issued a full out endorsement for an entity that was proven to be RMT'ing to the tune of $40,000 a year.


This except take out the basically part.

CCP considers this matter resolved to the player base.

Bump this thread all you want but you got your answer, you just don't like it.


except RMT wasn't the original topic of this thread, the original topic remains void of any kind of answer what so ever.

Yay, this account hasn't had its signature banned. or its account, if you're reading this.

Deka Ekato
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#1690 - 2013-12-17 04:44:18 UTC
CCP,

Look, no matter how much GTC / PLEX sales can be directly atributed, directly because of Somer, ( which is, of course, good for your business ), Somer managed to make real money from your game, Eve, in 'direct violation' of your own EULA / TOS.

Somer has RMT'ed.

CCP, come on, please do the right thing. ( Ignoring this issue is not the "right thing", nor is possibly locking / deleting this thread ).
Mini Vordul
Hotel Krabifornia
#1691 - 2013-12-17 12:59:22 UTC
Kate stark wrote:
Sexy Cakes wrote:
Argus Sorn wrote:

CCP devs basically issued a full out endorsement for an entity that was proven to be RMT'ing to the tune of $40,000 a year.


This except take out the basically part.

CCP considers this matter resolved to the player base.

Bump this thread all you want but you got your answer, you just don't like it.


except RMT wasn't the original topic of this thread, the original topic remains void of any kind of answer what so ever.


My point was that no answer at all from CCP is an answer in and of itself and that answer is 'stfu'.
Arduemont
Rotten Legion
#1692 - 2013-12-17 13:26:33 UTC
CCP only show us the illusion that they care what we think. Unless people start unsubbing over the issue I doubt you will make any difference. Because that's all they care about.

"In the age of information, ignorance is a choice." www.stateofwar.co.nf

Alice Lacie
Doomheim
#1693 - 2013-12-17 15:30:31 UTC
Arduemont wrote:
CCP only show us the illusion that they care what we think. Unless people start unsubbing over the issue I doubt you will make any difference. Because that's all they care about.


This is certainly true.
Whilst it is their right to care more about money than their customers, or their integrity,
it is our right to continue to draw attention to these facts.
Kate stark
#1694 - 2013-12-17 18:41:07 UTC
Mini Vordul wrote:
My point was that no answer at all from CCP is an answer in and of itself and that answer is 'stfu'.


ignoring a thread they created is not an "answer".

Yay, this account hasn't had its signature banned. or its account, if you're reading this.

Kate stark
#1695 - 2013-12-17 18:42:02 UTC
also guys, don't feel to bad. according to ripard's blog the CSM have been ignored just as much with respect to the minutes of the CSM summit.

Yay, this account hasn't had its signature banned. or its account, if you're reading this.

Nolak Ataru
Hedion University
Amarr Empire
#1696 - 2013-12-18 04:08:23 UTC
I would now like to auction off a rare item: An un-licked-by-CCP-devs piece of Somerset Mahm's boots!

Starting at only 1b isk per GTC!
Kate stark
#1697 - 2013-12-18 07:39:50 UTC
Nolak Ataru wrote:
I would now like to auction off a rare item: An un-licked-by-CCP-devs piece of Somerset Mahm's boots!

Starting at only 1b isk per GTC!


clearly a scam, no such thing exists.

Yay, this account hasn't had its signature banned. or its account, if you're reading this.

Opia Munba
mss industry
#1698 - 2013-12-18 10:43:13 UTC  |  Edited by: Opia Munba
Alice Lacie wrote:
Arduemont wrote:
CCP only show us the illusion that they care what we think. Unless people start unsubbing over the issue I doubt you will make any difference. Because that's all they care about.


This is certainly true.
Whilst it is their right to care more about money than their customers, or their integrity,
it is our right to continue to draw attention to these facts.


This is my last account, it`s timing out on a 6 month contract and I haven`t even logged in to Rubicon lol. When I started playing Eve years ago I found it extremely difficult to get on with, people have to act with a certain amount of autonomy when they play and in effect make their own game. This was also the most unique and eventually rewarding aspect of the game. I have mined highsec and null, manufactured frigs to freighters, market beared and pvp`ed. These are the things I love about Eve.

Part of the reason for quitting was (off topic) the jump animation. It drove me nuts because Eve`s not about that, it`s a game for purists and always should be.
Somer Blink was pretty much the other part. I have no problem with blink, I enjoyed to blink my arse off, but when it started to get this attention from CCP it fractured my purist dream and made me die a little inside.
So many different tools,ideas and entities interact with Eve and they expect nothing in return and this is how for me it should have stayed.
Unfortunately in business money is everything. 15 redundancies for CCP is both sad and indicative of how things are. They need to make money (this is not a stealth eve is dying thread btw). Somer make money, both for themselves and for CCP by creating a demand for isk and at this time are pretty much doing legally with CCP`s blessing at a guess.(There has to be an agreement to supply GTC`s at a reduced rate)
This is why the thread is so empty of CCP and CSM replies.
Could it have been different in retrospect?
Yes, if they left Blink alone I doubt anyone would give a flying F$ck.
Showing favourtism towards certain 3rd party sites , flashy epilepsy inducing animations and throwing money at rift are bad investments in my opinion. They should invest in making Eve more accessible ,user friendly and continue to be rewarding ( Iknow they are but progress is slow). People get bored of the other stuff. Rant over.
Bronco Platz
Doomheim
#1699 - 2013-12-18 11:14:46 UTC
Archibald Thistlewaite III wrote:
So, Somer is still using Eve to run a business that makes them a RL income?

I thought that was a breach of the EULA.


It is not if you generate a really big income for CCP, too. I.e. selling a lot of GTC.

This signature is under NDA. Sorry.

Kirren D'marr
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#1700 - 2013-12-18 19:53:29 UTC
Bronco Platz wrote:
Archibald Thistlewaite III wrote:
So, Somer is still using Eve to run a business that makes them a RL income?

I thought that was a breach of the EULA.


It is not if you generate a really big income for CCP, too. I.e. selling a lot of GTC.


No, it's still a breach of EULA then; CCP just doesn't care to enforce it. It's a minor technicality, and the end result is the same, but a difference nonetheless.

Why a switch on/off? Because the new animation doesn't add anything to gameplay and it's graphically annoying. In other words, it's worse than bad: it's useless. Simple as that.     _ - Kina Ayami_