EVE General Discussion

CCP really needs to step in...After they have made CCP lots of money, and close their in game accounts for being a business.

It always was a big **** you to the community.

Any gambling site where you have the ability to use cash to gamble needs to be registered and controlled.

This setup where CCP turns cash into isk and then into Blink credit and reverse into in-game items and Plex reminds me a lot of
Pachinko
This is a mechanical game originating in Japan and is used as both a form of recreational arcade game and much more frequently as a gambling device, filling a Japanese gambling niche comparable to that of the slot machine in Western gaming. A pachinko machine resembles a vertical pinball machine, but has no flippers and uses a large number of small balls. The player fires balls into the machine, which then cascade down through a dense forest of pins. If the balls go into certain locations, they may be captured and sequences of events may be triggered that result in more balls being released. The object of the game is to capture as many balls as possible. These balls can then be exchanged for prizes. Pachinko machines were originally strictly mechanical, but modern ones have incorporated extensive electronics, becoming similar to video slot machines.

Pachinko parlors are widespread in Japan, and they usually also feature a number of slot machines (called pachislo or pachislots); hence, these venues operate and look similar to casinos.

Modern pachinko machines are highly customizable, keeping enthusiasts continuously entertained.Directly gambling on pachinko is illegal in Japan. Balls won cannot be exchanged directly for money in the parlor. The balls are exchanged for tokens or prizes, which are then taken outside and exchanged for cash at a place nominally separate from the parlor.

--source: Wikipedia


I first heard about it in the 1980s, as it was illegal to gamble in Japan, so you changed cash for ball bearings and won or lost ball bearings. If you got a lot you would go next door to a separate business and they would exchange your ball bearings for prizes from teddy bears to sports cars. Because they were separate businesses it was not illegal.

A large number of these used to be owned by the Japanese Mob, the yakuza.

Not every day you get to have CCP and the Yakuza in the same post

i think we're going to get the official word on nov. 7th, after Somer finishes cashing out.

"Honor isn't about making the right choices. It's about dealing with the consequences."

You stole the quote CCP, but then at least learn to embrace it.

CCP to resellers: Stop them giving out bonuses as it's a form of RMT

All third parties stop offering bonuses

Somer up their bonus from 200m to 1bn, in order to maximise the amount of RMTing they can do in the remaining week

To any CCP dev reading this: Please explain to me exactly how you guys dare call them a "community service", and officially endorse them and claim they are legit and trustworthy

Lack of response will be taken as admission of lying, favouritism, and all round scummy practices

CCP has accepted what Somer is doing is RMT, which is why it gave them 7 days more to do it without consequence?

Now they are giving 1b isk out with every sale,

This is simply ridiculous now. I am totally speechless.

and there i was, thinking Sony were the ones we would have to keep an eye on...

...you know, not mentioning the stupidity of their DRM on mini disks - which is sort of like strangling your child at birth...

...and certainly not thinking of installing root kits on people's computers if they use your audio CDs...

I sort of didnt expect CCP to come close...

Probably because CCP didn't tell Somer. They told Markee Dragon, who they'll have a contract with, probably with terms and conditions which have limits on how quickly they can change/add terms.

It's going on three weeks now. Seriously, you'd expect something...

at the end of the day somer are set up to make a profit (dollars or isk, i don't care how you interpret that).
putting the bonus up to 1bn isk is a small pay out for the next week to potentially hook new players who will keep using your referral code even after the bonus dries up.
short term pay out for potential new business. it's a prudent business decision. even as a community site you're useless if you're not turning a profit as you'll have to shut up shop and cease to be a community site at all.

i agree, this situation has been a bit back to front from the beginning. Hopefully CCP can turn it around but meh... doesn't seem likely since they seem to have abandoned the thread and are more interested in flying usb rifters around the office and composing poetry or something.