EVE General Discussion

i assume you have a rorqual or two to aid you in your carrier construction endeavors. might wanna make sure you watch them carefully

i agree, any and all content is welcome.

i am happy that you took it sportingly instead of with tears.

and tbh i (probably) won't actually do it, because i'm too damn lazy to undock

Unsubbed all my 172 alts. Came in looking for a good space sci-fi mmorpg, left when I saw it was a good pile of $hit

You unsubbed us all? I guess this thread will be pretty quiet from here on out...

On a more serious note, I'm surprised this hasn't been linked in this thread yet:




So, when is SOMER getting its bonus ISK practice shut down? Any rule has to be applied equally, right? Or are they still hiding behind the "it's not really ISK" defense?

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The more I look at this the more I believe CCP did not actually research Somer Blink before endorsing them.

If a member of CCP has claimed that they did research Somer Blink, they are either incompetent or receiving bribes.

I can not even believe for a second that CEO CCP 'Greed is Good' Hilmar, failed in risk management so badly when presented with the facts.

What are the facts?

• Somer has made CCP Millions in GTC sales
• To sign up for a Somer Blink account you must use the in game browser.
• CCP convert the GTC into isk which is then sent in-game to Somer Blink.
• Under UK law this gambling is illegal as you can cash out for plex and subsequently receive a service, this game.
• Somer Blinks site is protected by a whois service located in Panama.
• In a court of law, it would be nearly impossible to actually prove who owns Somer Blink.
• Somer Blinks site has no reference to its location as a business or where it is hosted.

That is why I cannot believe anyone at CCP actually looked at this beyond, how much money they were getting from Somer Blink.

No CEO would look at a Gambling site protected by an offshore company in Panama, with its name servers hidden to prevent detection of its jurisdiction and consider them a good risk to have so deeply in-bedded into their company.

CCP has broken its own TOS for the sake of this business and frankly for what? A few million dollars, after they have spent so much more building this game.

nobody gives a **** what the reward wass, the issue people have is that after 7 years of handing out permanent bans for anybody who sold isk, you have no perfected isk selling for yourselves and are rewarding people who boost your sales!!

Somer is a huge isk sink, people buy plex to pay for their tickets, and you are happy with that. I don't blame you from a business angle, but the way you go about it is ridiculous. and even the OP in this thread just reads like you are taking your customers for fools. You didnt request that the rewards were kept quiet, but you did HOPE that they would be.

Alright I'm not sure how many times my points have been hit on but bare with me. I'm not reading all 64 pages of responses.

So far I've seen a lot of people bashing SB for "stealing isk." They don't steal it. They operate the same way any form of gambling operates. Someone doesn't have a lot of something and they want more. Take a chance bet what you have and you either come out on top or you lose everything. That's gambling. Personally I've thrown so much into SB and I lose it all every time, but I still play 'cause maybe someday I'll make up for what I've lost and even if I don't it's fun to me.

That being said; There are several bashing SB for being a promoter for ETC's and putting money in CCP's wallet. Last time I checked CCP uses that money (and all the other money they make) to host all kinds of events for their players, and continue to add content to the game we all love. If you don't love EVE, your frozen corpse should be turned into a tourist attraction in Jita. On top of actually helping to fund CCP with their promotion system, SB also donates portions of their earnings to player events in game. Example: funding every tournament team with 10 bil. Maybe everyone else in EVE just has 10b to throw around on a tournament or whatever. If you're one of those with too much to figure what to do with it, donate some to me. I'll gladly accept it. Maybe these guys are stuffing their wallets with isk, but some of it goes back to the players to make the game more interesting.

Now, SB aside. I've seen a lot of posts that run something along the lines of: Bound items suck. Vanity trash is cool. Out of game stuff is fine too. Just don't give anything to [so&so]

The IWS IS "vanity trash" its a non functional "cool looking," for those of you who don't understand what skinned means, ship. It's entire existence is devoted to being given out as a prize for whatever CCP wants. If you don't like what they sell for don't buy one. If you're holding onto it to sell it for major gains, sell it now. CCP staff have already hit this one enough. I don't even know why it's so hard to comprehend. It's worthless. They're giving out more. Maybe they'll do something else about how they give it out, but there will be more. Maybe they should just give one out to every account on Christmas or around the holidays. Then no one gets to cry that they don't have one or they cost too much or too little.

I agree with those that say bound items suck. Out of game stuff is cool too, but that's CCP putting real money towards giving more players more stuff. They already give out plenty and have stated more than once that sometimes they'll throw out a t-shirt or resin ships. Personally I like the idea of maybe someday getting something for not trying to blow up every ship I see, or however I'm supposed to support the community. In game they can create the "vanity trash." It's something cool to have, and once it's created they can give out as many as they want.

The only real problem I see is transparency. I would like to know who CCP is giving things to. Not only does it say "Hey, we're not playing favorites with [so&so]" but it also throws them out on the metaphoric D-scan. I'm all for checking out new fansites, or maybe finding a new tool to use with EVE, and I feel like that would be a great way to showcase those. I know we've already got the community spotlight, but I feel that this could add to that.

Long story short, keep doing what you're doing CCP. You didn't get this far with an awesome fanbase for no reason, and we're not going anywhere any time soon.

Fixed that for you

PS - Ask to quit while you can brah.

i guess a nyx only refines to 1 trit bro