Out of Pod Experience

As a long time eve player, 10 years, i'll give you a small history lesson. When eve first came out, it had about 200k people on the forums, making groups and doing the alpha and beta test. Then when it was released, that numbers dropped, down to like 2k people on at all times. STO had I think about 300k people foaming at the mouth with interest for it. The beta test came out and they had alod of people on there servers, then when the game went live, that number dropped like a rock. Saying that there are currently 400k people registered to play... a game that has zero to actually play... and thinking that converts to real money, besides what possibly stupid people have given the money thus far to the game (I only say stupid because if this game is an absolute flop, they will indeed be stupid. They could also be brilliant) is insane. SWTOR had prolly a million people interested and looking to try it, and we saw what happened there. Hype is that, hype. So what if a lot of people with money to blow is feeding a beast because they think the beast will be cool. Untill launch, this means absolutely nothing. Not even if 2m people get on the alpha and beta test, it still means nothing until the game is launched. For comparison, Serenity, whn it launched both times in china (yes it was launched twice) had 100k for the first time, and like 300k the second time of people wanting to play... now it has less then that who actually play. So your numbers of 400k people signed up, if 1/4th are on at the same time... mean ziltch.

After scanning the thread, here are a few things I think will happen:

1) If the game is not a single shard world, which I somehow highly doubt it will be, then I won't play. That's one of the appeals to me about eve. I don't have to ask my friends what server they are on? and if I want to shoot Russians, germans, americans, etc I can find them to shoot, or work with.

2) Someone mentioned the game won't do subscriptions, which is a fine business model, but that this means is it will not hurt eve all the much. As you can easily play both simutamiously. Just like Guild Wars never really hurt eve or WoW's numbers, as you can play both.

3) If the skill system is not like eve's, or even like Earth And Beyond's used to be (you would get skill points when you leve up and then you plug them into skills you liked based on the sp's your received) I and a lot of people may not play. I hate run around skill crap with sticks level up games. or in this case, fly around and shoot crap with pee shooters level up games.

Honestly SC has potential, I don't think it will be an "eve killer" but I do think it might give ccp a nice swift kick in the ass to fix stuff. Which it seems they are already doing. But only time will tell. I will prolly check it out, like I did STO. Never checked out SWTOR because a friend of mine who was a huge star wars fan and was foaming at the mouth for TOR said it sucked. lol.

The Star Citizen developers have stated before that the game won't run on a single server. The persistant universe will have its own infrastructure and create instances in certain locations according to the players "PvP slider", connection latency, number of people flying together, etc. Paralel player ran and modded universes will also be a feature.


I think the question here is more like "Will you want to play and spend your time with both games?" instead of "Can you play them simultaneously?".


The only skill system you'll have in Star Citizen is the "hands-on kit" baby.

After having been in 250+ per-side brawls (this is obviously an alt; get over it), I can't see that Star Citizen has much to offer me.
I'll probably stick my... nose in, to see if I'm wrong, but I'd be quite surprised if I found it very interesting.

I'm sure those to whom it speaks will find it very entertaining, but I don't expect to be part of that number.

It's not about pulling the trigger. It's about setting up the situation such that when someone else pulls the trigger, the right guys go 'boom.' Chess, as opposed to rugby.
But, as you note, something for everyone. *shrug*

Yes, but why use the wrong promotional videos? Something like this would get the message out better, entice the right kind of players from the get go... oh yes, and at a much cheaper rate.

Uh-huh, I smell people creating alts and passing on their wealth ad infinitum - since there's no skillpoints to lose, death will be meaningless. You will just lose a pretty face, but hey you can just probably recreate yourself v10.0 and go about your business.

And we've seen how bounties work, haven't we. Back in the day of old bounty system in EVE, you'd get the whole thing for podding someone, and despite quite a few individuals roaming about with good ISK on their heads nobody ventured out to dangerous space to hunt them.

There won't be consequences either, because even if you made another player angry you can just retreat to safe space and pop your slider back to "no pvp" and wait them out. They can't even suicide gank to retaliate.

(That's all assuming it ever comes out, of course)

This is a bit off topic but I particularly liked that chess game video website. Their Dust 514 review was very accurate.

Yes and no. It seems it's delayed because they got ahead of themselves. The DFG was slated to be released in December, but without some back-end multi-player stuff. They were going to add that in later when it got done. That back-end work got done earlier then expected, so they decided to hold off for a couple months while they just go ahead and add that in now.
A strange thing of being behind schedule, because they're ahead of schedule.

I agree with this post. There are a lot of games that are about to possibly over take eve. For those of you who love minecraft, there is a game out there called "Star Made". Star made is another sandbox similar to eve however it almost trumps eve. You can do all of the alliance fighting and wars over space like eve, but you can go down to every planet and mine it. Is it a "industrialists only" game? NO it's not. There is PVP however I find that the PVP is more intiment (for a lack of a better word). You build every inch of your ship and when your fighting it breaks apart. So if anything the intensity is more real, however in contrast to eve there are not that many beautiful graphics. I watched a youtube video of a guy who built this magnificent looking ship and was in warp when he went afk to utilize the bathroom. While away he slammed a station, destroyed a part of his ship and broke the station in half, causing the lower half to crash into a planet. I found it to be fantastic! Measuring up against EVE, I find that the game is right up there with it, and is always bettering itself.
Now when it comes to Star citizen and EVE i find that EVE better hold on to it's seats. Star sitizen looks fantastic! A lot more options, to include WIS!!! I find the fact that Star Citizen is being built by donations fantastic. Finally some developers that know what the people want. None of that "company knows best mentality" while ignoring their players needs and wants. I intend to purchase Star Citizen and Star Made.
Putting moduals on an eve ship is at the very least difficult. Power grid problems followed by CPU and skill problems makes for the game to become extrodinarily frustrating. I would rather see the item I am putting on, be bolted or attached to the ship, not just click drag drop. Those details make my brains want more and more of the game because once I attach my "physical labor" to something then in my mind, I am involved. I find that dedication to detail both rewarding for us the players, and the developers. I hate to say this as an eve player and also because a lot of you are trolls, but I think eve will go under when the game releases.