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Great idea for Ice mining! Now, let's make Missions a finite resource.

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Ruze
Next Stage Initiative
#1 - 2013-06-12 05:04:09 UTC
Now, please setup missions to be on a limited basis. Like, one mission per agent every 4 hours. Or even, each agent only gives 25 missions every four hours, and the first mission runners there get the go.

Actually, I like this alot. I know it sounds like sarcasm, but this hisec occupant is serious about it. I feel that making all 'resources' limited and something worth competing over is an awesome concept and needs more focus.

Scale the little guys, like level 1 agents, to be near infinite. But as you go up in the mission difficulty, down goes the number of missions which can be given out every hour, until each agent only gives 25 or 50 (however many would make it worth competing for) missions every four hours. Makes you second guess turning down that losec mission.

Do NOT apply this to FW zones, however, or FW pilots.

If you're driven to threaten others with harm or violence because of what they do in game, you can't separate fantasy from reality. That "griefer/thief" is probably more sane than you are. How screwed up is that?
Erotica 1
Krypteia Operations
#2 - 2013-06-12 05:10:56 UTC

I think you're on to something, but I think I have a better idea. Hear me out...

Each agent at every station can only have a dialog up with 1 person at a time. If the agent is busy, you literally have to step in line behind the other pilots. While you are in line, you can chat with your fellow players in line.

Now I know what you are thinking... what if someone in front of you is chatting about nonsense with the agent, right? Well, that's how it is in real life, so why not!

Also, I suggest the agent periodically check his communication device and completely ignore pilots in line. This way it will be more real.

Furthermore, mission agents should be "rightsized." In other words, to save tax isk, a percentage of them- say 25%, should be laid off.

I know, it's a great idea right?!

See Bio for isk doubling rules. If you didn't read bio, chances are you funded those who did.
Kara Vix
Perkone
Caldari State
#3 - 2013-06-12 05:12:58 UTC
And watch as hi sec subscriptions become a limited resource as well. All these idiotic ideas to destroy hi sec never end do they?
Erotica 1
Krypteia Operations
#4 - 2013-06-12 05:18:10 UTC
Kara Vix wrote:
And watch as hi sec subscriptions become a limited resource as well. All these idiotic ideas to destroy hi sec never end do they?


Just because others have different ideas from you does not make the ideas idiotic.

If you would take the time to think about it, such a change would equally affect high sec, low sec, and null. Also, it would reduce the number of bots and bot aspirants.

I have a feeling you are not yet a New Order supporter. I suggest checking it out at www.minerbumping.com

See Bio for isk doubling rules. If you didn't read bio, chances are you funded those who did.
Kara Vix
Perkone
Caldari State
#5 - 2013-06-12 05:22:55 UTC
Erotica 1 wrote:
Kara Vix wrote:
And watch as hi sec subscriptions become a limited resource as well. All these idiotic ideas to destroy hi sec never end do they?


Just because others have different ideas from you does not make the ideas idiotic.

If you would take the time to think about it, such a change would equally affect high sec, low sec, and null. Also, it would reduce the number of bots and bot aspirants.

I have a feeling you are not yet a New Order supporter. I suggest checking it out at www.minerbumping.com


I respect others ideas, when they are not idiotic and self serving, but this endless cycle of trying to destroy hi sec to force people into low or null grows tiring. New Order, lol, what a bunch of muppets.
Q 5
999 HOLDINGS LLC
#6 - 2013-06-12 05:32:02 UTC  |  Edited by: Q 5
Now why didn't I think of a troll like this, well before it gets filled here's my .2isk, no.

Why can't CCP limit the number low brow ideals from people who hate others enjoying themselves.

See a miner, hate.

See a missioner hate.

See a hauler, hate.

See a noob, hate.

See your reflection in the mirror, hate.

Just bring everything down cause misery loves company and since I can't enjoy this game neither can you...on and on, please unsubscribe.
Erotica 1
Krypteia Operations
#7 - 2013-06-12 05:34:03 UTC
Kara Vix wrote:
Erotica 1 wrote:
Kara Vix wrote:
And watch as hi sec subscriptions become a limited resource as well. All these idiotic ideas to destroy hi sec never end do they?


Just because others have different ideas from you does not make the ideas idiotic.

If you would take the time to think about it, such a change would equally affect high sec, low sec, and null. Also, it would reduce the number of bots and bot aspirants.

I have a feeling you are not yet a New Order supporter. I suggest checking it out at www.minerbumping.com


I respect others ideas, when they are not idiotic and self serving, but this endless cycle of trying to destroy hi sec to force people into low or null grows tiring. New Order, lol, what a bunch of muppets.


Each insult results in a fine. I suggest you stop now, find an agent, and offer to pay your fine before the bill gets out of hand.

See Bio for isk doubling rules. If you didn't read bio, chances are you funded those who did.
Fernando MRuiz
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#8 - 2013-06-12 05:34:15 UTC
Q 5 wrote:
Now why didn't I think of a troll like this, well before it gets filled here's my .2isk, no.

Why can't CCP limit the number low brow ideals from people who hate others enjoying themselves.


The ones who yell the most about that are the ones whose G and F keys hardly ever get used?

"One must, in one's life, make a choice between boredom and suffering." - Mme. Germaine de Staël
Kara Vix
Perkone
Caldari State
#9 - 2013-06-12 05:37:35 UTC
Erotica 1 wrote:
Kara Vix wrote:
Erotica 1 wrote:
Kara Vix wrote:
And watch as hi sec subscriptions become a limited resource as well. All these idiotic ideas to destroy hi sec never end do they?


Just because others have different ideas from you does not make the ideas idiotic.

If you would take the time to think about it, such a change would equally affect high sec, low sec, and null. Also, it would reduce the number of bots and bot aspirants.

I have a feeling you are not yet a New Order supporter. I suggest checking it out at www.minerbumping.com


I respect others ideas, when they are not idiotic and self serving, but this endless cycle of trying to destroy hi sec to force people into low or null grows tiring. New Order, lol, what a bunch of muppets.


Each insult results in a fine. I suggest you stop now, find an agent, and offer to pay your fine before the bill gets out of hand.


I'll get right on that..
Q 5
999 HOLDINGS LLC
#10 - 2013-06-12 05:41:08 UTC  |  Edited by: Q 5
Fernando MRuiz wrote:
Q 5 wrote:
Now why didn't I think of a troll like this, well before it gets filled here's my .2isk, no.

Why can't CCP limit the number low brow ideals from people who hate others enjoying themselves.


The ones who yell the most about that are the ones whose G and F keys hardly ever get used?


Yeah, I got to admit I have never played with a G or F....gay flute.

Center for advanced studies, there's a pilot in the wrong class, ----->Special ED that way sir.
Erotica 1
Krypteia Operations
#11 - 2013-06-12 05:41:28 UTC
Kara Vix wrote:
Erotica 1 wrote:
Kara Vix wrote:
Erotica 1 wrote:
Kara Vix wrote:
And watch as hi sec subscriptions become a limited resource as well. All these idiotic ideas to destroy hi sec never end do they?


Just because others have different ideas from you does not make the ideas idiotic.

If you would take the time to think about it, such a change would equally affect high sec, low sec, and null. Also, it would reduce the number of bots and bot aspirants.

I have a feeling you are not yet a New Order supporter. I suggest checking it out at www.minerbumping.com


I respect others ideas, when they are not idiotic and self serving, but this endless cycle of trying to destroy hi sec to force people into low or null grows tiring. New Order, lol, what a bunch of muppets.


Each insult results in a fine. I suggest you stop now, find an agent, and offer to pay your fine before the bill gets out of hand.


I'll get right on that..


Sarcasm could be another fine.

Again, visit the website and accept James into your heart as the one and only true saviour of highsec.

See Bio for isk doubling rules. If you didn't read bio, chances are you funded those who did.
Fernando MRuiz
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#12 - 2013-06-12 05:47:02 UTC  |  Edited by: Fernando MRuiz
Q 5 wrote:
Fernando MRuiz wrote:
Q 5 wrote:
Now why didn't I think of a troll like this, well before it gets filled here's my .2isk, no.

Why can't CCP limit the number low brow ideals from people who hate others enjoying themselves.


The ones who yell the most about that are the ones whose G and F keys hardly ever get used?


Yeah, I got to admit I have never played with a G or F....gay flute.

Center for advanced studies, there's a pilot in the wrong class, ----->Special ED that way sir.


Hint: stay at the keyboard and act like a civilized human being in Local. You could chop quite a bit off your budget for ships and put that towards something more useful. I imagine you go through quite a few mining barges a month, eh?

EDIT: I could make a retort based on how someone who slings insults is the furthest thing from 'royal' possible, but I think I'll just respond with 'that's an awful nice glass house you got there; put the rocks down.'

"One must, in one's life, make a choice between boredom and suffering." - Mme. Germaine de Staël
Jake Warbird
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#13 - 2013-06-12 05:54:12 UTC
OP you ever done missions? It's a punishment in itself. Just **** off and let some of us hisec folk fund for our occasional drunken pvp the way we want.

Sugar Von MurdererTits : Jake Warbird gets my vote for most intriguing and attractive male character in Eve.
Elliavir
Miskatonic Mercantile
#14 - 2013-06-12 06:38:35 UTC
Ruze wrote:
Now, please setup missions to be on a limited basis. Like, one mission per agent every 4 hours. Or even, each agent only gives 25 missions every four hours, and the first mission runners there get the go.

Actually, I like this alot. I know it sounds like sarcasm, but this hisec occupant is serious about it. I feel that making all 'resources' limited and something worth competing over is an awesome concept and needs more focus.

Scale the little guys, like level 1 agents, to be near infinite. But as you go up in the mission difficulty, down goes the number of missions which can be given out every hour, until each agent only gives 25 or 50 (however many would make it worth competing for) missions every four hours. Makes you second guess turning down that losec mission.

Do NOT apply this to FW zones, however, or FW pilots.



Because we should definitely make it so folks who have limited play time have even more limited options on what to do - unless they want to go PvP. That should, of course, stay unlimited.

We need to do something about those people who stay in station and do market stuff, though. They aren't out PvPing enough. I know, let's put a timer and by-station limits on buy and sell orders! Make you think twice about whether you REALLY want to sell that module right here, right now, eh?

And why leave out FW pilots? I am sure we can find something to limit for them, too. Wouldn't want them to feel unloved.

/sarcsm off

In all seriousness, why? Heck, as far as I know, you will annoy some of the folks who like to PvP (including those FW guys) because there will be fewer targets of opportunity out there. You aren't introducing 'competition' (because there is no way to compete other than parking in station and camping the mission agents) - you are just introducing scarcity.
Tul Breetai
Impromptu Asset Requisition
#15 - 2013-06-12 06:56:38 UTC
/popcorn

Get some more alts in here and we could take this to the big screen.

There's nothing worse than an EVE player, generally considered to be top of the food chain in the MMO world, that cannot smacktalk with wit and coherency.
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
#16 - 2013-06-12 07:16:15 UTC
Elliavir wrote:
You aren't introducing 'competition' (because there is no way to compete other than parking in station and camping the mission agents) - you are just introducing scarcity.

Competing by camping isn't "real" competition I take it.

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Jake Tzestu
DotCoDotUk
#17 - 2013-06-12 07:21:41 UTC  |  Edited by: Jake Tzestu
What a great idea...then i can just log in every 4 hours do my missions and then go and play something else while i wait for the timer.

Maybe also make a pvp cooldown timer for say 4 hours so you can only pvp every 4 hours....its only fair after all. ;0)
Mara Rinn
Cosmic Goo Convertor
#18 - 2013-06-12 07:22:27 UTC  |  Edited by: Mara Rinn
Ruze wrote:
Actually, I like this alot. I know it sounds like sarcasm, but this hisec occupant is serious about it. I feel that making all 'resources' limited and something worth competing over is an awesome concept and needs more focus.


Lets start by making moon goo depletable.

Technetium became valuable, Goons moved mountains to take the tech moons. Then came years of stagnation, "nullsec wars are about personality not resources hurf blurf". Some guy from TEST starts sabre rattling and spoiling for a fight, so the nullsec powers that be shut him down. What happened to war being about personalities? Then R64 got rebalanced and now Goons suddenly have the motivation to push TEST out of Fountain. No personalities involved, it is only about resources.

So make the resources finite and depletable. Give us a reason to be continually sending raiding parties and recon missions into enemy space.

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Josef Djugashvilis
#19 - 2013-06-12 07:30:43 UTC
Ruze wrote:
Now, please setup missions to be on a limited basis. Like, one mission per agent every 4 hours. Or even, each agent only gives 25 missions every four hours, and the first mission runners there get the go.

Actually, I like this alot. I know it sounds like sarcasm, but this hisec occupant is serious about it. I feel that making all 'resources' limited and something worth competing over is an awesome concept and needs more focus.

Scale the little guys, like level 1 agents, to be near infinite. But as you go up in the mission difficulty, down goes the number of missions which can be given out every hour, until each agent only gives 25 or 50 (however many would make it worth competing for) missions every four hours. Makes you second guess turning down that losec mission.

Do NOT apply this to FW zones, however, or FW pilots.


You seem to think that mission runners, when there are no missions available, will just pop down to lo-sec and get ganked by gangs of pvp fit ships, or go to null-sec and take part in their tedious ego wars.

I am sure you mean well, but. oh dear...

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Cipher Jones
The Thomas Edwards Taco Tuesday All Stars
#20 - 2013-06-12 07:54:11 UTC
0/10.

Blah blah make it even and fair, oh but not for FW. So we know you're trolling anyway.

And even if CCP did, so what? If minerals and LP were finite resources, I would only need to do one mission every four hours.

internet spaceships

are serious business sir.

and don't forget it
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