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How about that dev blog?

need moar details... liek naow!!

Everybody so excited about large guns ? What about your tank, think how long you can stay against 2x Thrashers, which pop you puppy in seconds. And how your lovely large guns will be missing at any smaller target.

guess getting t2 cruisers or t3 cruisers was too hard ?

This would be epic if ships like the Hurricane didn't already outdamage certain battleships while still tracking small ships without any trouble...

Pinky

T2 Myrmidon finally yes?

I guess somebody at CCP finally got around to actually looking up the word "Battlecruiser". Now all they need to do is re-classify the old style BC's as "Heavy Cruisers" and we will have some sense.

As for the new ships - I don't know if I like the idea or not. BS sized weapons is fine, but I hope to see them with limited tanking capability (T1 BC levels at best), a decent turn of speed (but slower than a Cruiser or HAC) and poor agility due to their size.

Ultimately, I don't know what niche they are expected to fulfill. LR sniper maybe, but there are HAC's and BS that already do that, and do it with more versatility and survivability (I expect). L4 mission runner? Not unless they have a much bigger tank than I expect them to have.

Most of the roles that BC's had in the real world just don't translate into EVE, so that just leaves commerce raiding. If CCP are giving us a new ship that is only really good as a cheap disposable High Sec ganking tool I am going to be pi**ed.

Like it or not the majority of EVE players live in High Sec, and making life more difficult for them is not going to persuade them to move to Low or Null. The perception that I have of Low and Null is that it suits just two types of players - The no lifers who are able to spend 8 hours a day or more in-game, and pvp'ers who are happy to log on and spend an hour or two looking for randoms to kill. People who have limited time, and want to build stuff, or trade stuff, or explore stuff will generally end up doing it in High Sec because it is casual friendly. Making it less casual friendly will just cause them to stop logging on, and ultimately to stop paying their subs.

I fear that now that CCP have promised to concentrate on "Ships in Space", and promised us new ships, they have scrambled around to find something they can deliver quickly rather than put in the work to deliver us the stuff like T3 frigates that they have been talking about for so long. I would rather they took the time to do it right, rather than do it quick, and I hope they have been very carefull when planning the roles and uses these new hulls can be put to once the many many ingenious and devious Bas*ards in this game get their hands on them.

Actually there's a very straight-forward solution to all this new-ship & re-balance discussion (in my opinion) ...

Tier-1 = all purpose with some variation across hulls, i.e. light cruiser with low-end medium weapons and heavy cruiser with high-end weapons

Tier-2 = specialized roles, i.e. only 2 of 5 hulls can do EW (using stealth bomber pattern - it just won't fit that hull) and only a different 2 or 5 can do recon, etc.

Tier-3 = hunter/killer - tornado is an example

Tech-2 = a BIG increase in capability (same pattern as Tech-1) with a corresponding big increase in cost and training

Tech-3 = ditto with a HUGH increase in capability, cost, and training (making them even rarer) - you want to fly that Tengu, train 6 months for it - of course it can be countered with a big enough group of Tech-1 & Tech-2 Tier-3 ships

difficult to implement you say? not really if you're going to be radical - employ the training points schema already used - everyone looses all combat training skills in all ship but gains a massive amount of immediate affect training points

net result = all hulls meaningfully re-balanced and all pilots able to train specifically desired skills while making 'exotic' ships really rare and expensive - that's how you break the current null/low/gank vs high/mission patterns - that's how you make ROLE PLAYING ships in space

Stupid forums and their "We Were ganked" message. :(

"Tier 3" so probably racial cruiser 3/4 and battle cruiser 3.

I have to admit... I began to salivate the moment I read the headline. New BCs! BCs with BS guns! A clip from a beloved Movie in reference to the new ships badassness! The pool of drool had made my chair look like a wet-dream accident by the time I finished reading. Awesome CCP!!! \o/