Test Server Feedback

The size of the cans is to small.

Double clicking tractors? Doesn't tractor?

The tractor beam is slow. Being far away means a slow tractor which means less loot collected.

The speed of the cans sucks. I do this in a legion. it isn't the most agile thing ever.

The hacking screen needs to be more transparent.

The mechanics/engineering pieces are not 'bad loot' they are massively bulky loot

Frankly, we should have some way to cherry pick these cans since we have to make a series of decisions on what to collect after we have just finished fighting through through the mini game, tried to watch dscan and not die and we only have two chances to hack the game or we lose the can.

There needs to be some announcement to the fleet mate helping that cans are about to spew into space.

Well it looks like I just stopped giving up anymore of my time to test your systems for you on Sisi. What's the point if you are only using my feedback to check off the feedback box?

You know, in my job if I make something for my clients and they all but one hate it, I can make up any number of self serving generic conceptual reasoning why they hate it, like "they are being adverse to change" all I want. And even if that one person who likes it agrees with me that my grand vision was right and everyone else just doesn't get it. The simple fact still remains that if I don't make my clients happy, I have failed at what I do.

Sure...

• It's really unresponsive. There's no feedback for when you've got one locked up and it will tractor, when it ends, when you've failed because the item is out of range. And it's all very slow, from the tractoring, to getting to groups of cans in even a fast ship, etc. I feel like when I wind up not tractoring a can I have no idea why it's not working or what I need to do to fix the situation. Again, feedback.
• We do not have direct control of our ships, so don't expect it from us! Moving towards floating cans that you can't select in the overview highlights some of the worst parts of how Eve's ship control mechanics work. It was already frustrating to nimbly move our ships around in Eve, we just typically didn't have to do it. As you know, we don't have direct control of our ships, but in this case you're basically asking us to pretend we do.
• This ties into the first two points, but 9/10 times I don't feel like I lost loot because of something I did... I lost loot because I got stuck on something, the interface broke in some weird way, or my cargo was full because I picked up something massive and now I don't get to pick up anything more until it all disappears.
• It's completely inconsistent with the metaphors you've used elsewhere in the game. Clicking on something doesn't bring something towards you anywhere but in this one single little mini-game. Worse yet, you've got the metaphor of tractoring using a module elsewhere in the game and it works completely differently. It's just bad design!
• I'm still encountering situations where the loot shoots into a structure and I can't get it, or spews the opposite of where I am and if I double click on the loot I just... navigate into the wall. It sucks.

Again, if you simply removed having to move your ship around and made the items disappear after a certain amount of time, so it was really just grabbing as much loot as you could whack a mole style, it would still be whole-ly inconsistent and out of some Facebook game, but at least it wouldn't seem broken and frusterating and it would far more be in line with what you advertised at Fanfest.

No we sit down and discuss the feedback we've got, it leads us to make changes and add further metrics gathering so we can find out how the problems are manifesting across the population playing not just the people who choose to post in the forums. Some things are obviously wrong and broken, some are issues that require smoothing of rough edges or reworking things and others are differences of opinion. Part of our job is to make sure we've listened, understood and considered the constructive feedback we get. I posted my list above here to make sure I wasn't missing anything as the feedback we get can be quite difficult to decipher.

I just want to apologise as people seem to have misunderstood my previous post. I was not agreeing that we should ignore feedback and that wasn't what the poster I was quoting meant either. I was agreeing that we were not disheartened. If we didn't care about your feedback I wouldn't be listing a whole bunch of things out, asking for your input and I wouldn't have been active in all the feedback threads on our feature.

There did seem to be confusion but it would seem it was how the quote was perceived, I believe you may have meant something like this.

But because this was included and was first people believed it is what you were agreeing to.

Pretty much this. I'm getting more and more disappointed as CCP seems to ignore more and more blatantly any constructive criticism that comes form these forums.

I know right? Initially I thought I had to bring a Noctis or have a tractor installed, but nope, it just pops outta nowhere. I want to whack the devs over the head so far for pushing this quite honestly HORRENDOUS loot pinata mechanis up our rectums.

It's as if they really want to make solo ANYTHING short of unboosted mining impossible or just far less profitable than it ought to be.

As much as I normally hate stacking forum posts. I feel forced to do so because exploration is my primary ISK source. The can loss pretty much kills the profession as it stands because solo pilots get too little and it pushes amall gang structure. However, a small gang would make more isk per hour doing L4s or even just nullsec ratting.

Second, while I feel the site difficulty is all over the place, I noticed I can now solve 1 out of 8 nullsec sites with my Echelon, which, while bad, yeilded enough cans not to make me want to jettison your entire dev team into the nearest Blood Raider encampment.

Third, the fact I can't pinpoint the valuable BPs from the dropped cans is enough to make me want to ram my fist through the screen when I *do* get a can out in null. At the very least make the cans unscannable because I'm going to foam at the mouth after two weeks of seeing the amount of valuable loot I'm wasting going at it solo.

Finally, why hasn't the loot pinata, which everyone pushed forward as feeling like a punishment, implemented as a punishment instead of an integral part of the profession? You're seemingly more active than you used to be in getting feedback, but honestly you seem to love making specific styles of gameplay (read: Anything not requiring alts) a blatant nightmare.

CCP's entire policy has always been "not perfect skills… NO *Insert relevant activity here* FOR YOU!". If you haven't noticed yet, they keep hammering hate on anything that can be done solo yet keep ignoring the fact that most of the people mining and/or hauling at any given moment are very likely bots.

Also, I approve of this. HARD. As anything that would get low-skileld characters a chance at null content would be so welcome I'd practically pay its rent.