Crime & Punishment

It sounds fun, and we have had antis who have done this fairly effectively. But the counter is pretty easy too. My favorite way of getting rid of them was to go watch an episode of Futurama and have a sandwich while staying docked in station. The fun seriously deteriorates when there are no gankers to jam. Without fail, every white knight who tried to stop me left to look elsewhere to prey. Then I'd get right back to ganking my weasly black guts out.

You can read this post on minerbumping to see how trying to camp in a freighter ganking fleet goes. Basically, its boring, so very boring. So boring that the white knights amuse themselves by watching youtube videos or other AFK endeavors. Then things blow up. Later you begin to realize that you are protecting pilots who are doing absolutely nothing to protect themselves. They aren't even thankful you are there. To be thankful they'd have to not be AFK. Then the white knights leave to do something fun. Then more things blow up.

Any way, if you go Falcon, put all Gallente specific jams and dual sebos. Also, tank your ship and don't dare go AFK in space. Because if we can't have the mackinaw, we'd surely love a Falcon killmail.

+1 for the tears.

Wrong. The only way to avoid being ganked by the new order is to put stabs on your mining vessels, dock up and get into a pvp ship to fight them. If he pops the ship and pods your capsule send a kill right made to everyone with a certain price.

I recommend you make the killright available for.... 1 million isk!

This is flat out the worst advice I have ever seen given in regards to not getting ganked. 95% of the time miner gankers don't fit scrams because the target will die before they finish aligning. You are much better off fitting a tank and carrying some ecm drones.


I didn't know we had either. Apparently we have a diplomat now though.

Barges and exhumers take approx. 10-15 seconds to align, if you're the intended target, not already aligned and accelerating before the gankers hit the belt, you're dead before you hit warp; unless you've fitted a proper tank, or are using a Procurer or a Skiff; regardless of your warp stabs.

A DC is a far better module to put in the lows.

TL;DR Stop with the disinformation. Anyone following your advice is signing their own death warrant, they're going to die.

Really? Have you seen the advice given out in New Citizens? I gave up posting there because you can't actually give anyone good advice without bad things happening to your post or the thread.

Honestly the advice in the new citizen section is usually not that bad. We might disagree with the anti-New Order bias there, but the overall tone of most posts is don't afk, tank your ship, and maybe bring a white knight with you. Every once in a while some idiot recommends yield tanking, but if they want to lose their ship, who are we not to oblige them?

AFK stationing tends to drive them away.

I want to say that I gladly support my colleague in his thoughtful remarks on mining in hi-sec and the risks involved in same.

On point 6 though I simply cannot concur. I am a pod pilot, just as the ganker is. I pay tribute to -no one- for the right to mine. most certainly not as a protection racket. It is very true that the amount of ISK requested, be it 10mil/annum or 10mil/month [I am not familiar with the exact details of the operation], is throwaway money. It is less than trivial. I chuck that out when I'm bored and want to play with ISK doublers.

CODE is known to attack pilots without even going through the 'pay us and you'll live' routine, as a new pilot I have been flying with was attacked without warning or provocation by one of CODE's number. Concord thankfully put a stop to this unwarranted aggression and my friend was left with their ship intact.

The point though is that for that license the pilot 'buys', they are required to put a message in their bio, stating they paid the protection fee. They are now owned by CODE and they [proudly?] pronounce it. In that fashion the pod pilot's sovereignty to act as they see fit, is compromised for a pittance. They can now only operate through explicit permission from CODE.

I ask my fellow miners: why would you call yourself a pod pilot if you have to buy a token before you can do what you want to do? Rise to the occasion. You worked for your ISK, you owe nobody anything, and most certainly not as a miner. There is a good chance that the ship they use to blow up yours was at least in part built with the minerals you gathered.

This is not a rant against gankers/bumpers. I do not agree with their actions, they are still an integral part of the experience. Fellow-miners: work around them, don't bemoan their presence.