Issues, Workarounds & Localization

This is a good point and very annoying. Also the account names in the dropdown list seem to rearrange themselves seemingly randomly making us hunt for the one we want. Why can't they just stay in the same order all the time?

They have now included a tickbox option to bypass that, but it's not released yet.

Works too, Oh wait a minute that was yesterday, today, clear cache and try again, works.


Swat Dem Bugs Boyz.


I think I will stick with the Eve.exe method, simpler, linear, no messing about.

It's rather depressing, really, this whole launcher thing. When I started my trial 10 days ago, everything worked fine. After the update, not so much.

I've not seen what happens on my computer exactly repeated in these forums (which may be because I don't read ALL the posts about what is going wrong), but I thought I might add it here, see if anyone else recognises this.

When I start the launcher, I find two launcher processes in my Task Manager. One uses more capacity than the other. It would seem these processes are not always correctly removed, I've had the repair function in the launcher, which supposedly closes down the launcher before it activates, complain to me that the launcher was still active. I had to remove the process manually.

When I try to use the launcher to start the game, the PLAY button will change to LAUNCHING.... It will display this for roughly 20 seconds, then it will go back to PLAY. The game, however, does not launch. No sign of it in the task manager anywhere.

To get the launcher to work, I need to use the repair tool. It will repair a bunch of items that are apparently missing. After this, the launcher will verify the files, and then it will work ONCE. As soon as I log out of the game, it will stop working and I have to do the whole repair thing again.

- I ran the manual launcher update
- I tried clearing the cached date, but this doesn't seem to do anything beneficial.
- I can't have any legacy stuff older than 10 days or so, I'm working from a very recent install, since I'm a truly new player.
- I'm running Windows 7 Ultimate 64x
- I have bugticketed the above

This mess has never stopped me from playing, incidentally, I'm just using the .exe file in /bin half the time. But it does have me wondering what is going on with this launcher.

Hi, I didn't notice since I was too busy using the bugfix that removes the need for the installer.
Have you begun looking at the design flaws in the "new" "launcher"?

My feedback is still the same:

The launcher is making it more problematic and slower to login more than one character fast.

Before I could:

1. Open 3-4 instances of Eve.
2. Immediately login to each one once they were loaded.

Now I have to wait for the launcher and login each account and click launch.

I estimate its taking me 3-4 times as long to login as it did previously.

Furthermore, it seems like using the launcher to login to the game actually takes LONGER than just logging in with the exefile... what gives?


Sorry CCP, but this is a major dealbreaker - I do NOT feel like wasting my time trying to login to play a game I'm paying for.

Make the launcher GO AWAY or I will have to reconsider paying for more than one account (or playing the game at all). You say you listen to your users - THE PEOPLE WHO PAY YOUR SALARY - now prove this!

Thank you for the skill points. More than makes up for the login complications. :)

The posting and tone in this thread by some players...seems wrongly self-entitled. I understand the frustration when things aren't perfect or go wrong, but it doesn't warrant rudeness towards [real] people doing their jobs with the best intentions. Instead of cynicism and aggression, a little bit of appreciation and optimism helps to cultivate a better community and better experiences for everyone who has to work on and play the game.

There's no us and them, everyone contributes to the development of the game and it's why EVE is so good, because CCP value and act upon feedback and suggestions wherever they can feasibly. You pay for a game which you enjoy playing and much of that money goes towards improving the experience. Yes, there's still going to be things that you don't like, but constructive criticism and feedback is better than grumpy whinging and demands.

TL;DR,
Don't be grumpy neck-beards.

You are right and as I read past some of my earlier posts in this thread and the other one I admit my tone was a bit harsher than it probably should have been. I'm not like that in real life and usually give people the benefit of the doubt as a matter of course. Nobody is perfect and I apologize for my rude remarks.

However, on the other side of the coin, I've dealt with CCP's dev antics since 2003 and after a while people reach a point where they realize nothing they are saying is even being heard. When that happens they begin to shout. When shouting fails they start throwing things. And I can tell you from years of reading these forums that nothing CCP can do will **** off the playerbase faster than ignoring feedback and then implementing something that looks like it was coded by someone that has never even played the game. (Uniborked Inventory stands out like a flaming beacon as a prime example) That is disrespectful to their paying customers, plain and simple, and in my opinion is like asking to be yelled at.

When I PAY for something I expect it to work and I don't expect the people that I'm paying to foul it up in a display of total incompetence pissing about with something that wasn't broken and didn't need fixing in any way and replacing it with a load of crap which is apparently nothing like the "better community and better experiences" that you describe.

I say "apparently" because I am unable to comment on something I haven't experienced. Some of us now have no launcher at all, no information that anything is being done about it, and a threat to remove the only way we have to access the game. Note that this threat will be carried out when CCP, not the affected players, consider that it is no longer needed. Quite honestly, after this fiasco I can't foresee any time that we will no longer need a fall back position to cope with future CCP foul-ups.

As for "appreciation and optimism", I see no reason for either in view of, just for example, this: Followed two days later by this:

Well said. When I first started playing Eve I rolled with the punches when CCP messed things up with new updates. After years of this, however, I have had enough. There is a difference between a single flawed update and a pattern of borked releases and disregarded customer feedback. A single flaw is easy to overlook, but years of of breaking things and ignoring customer feedback are not. There are restaurants I no longer patronize because they repeatedly served me poor quality food and got my order wrong. Eve, however, is unique in the MMO world. I can't just go to another Internet Spaceship game because there isn't one like Eve available. So, I am reduced to shouting and throwing things to get the devs to realise that I am genuinely upset with their poor performance. If I don't, they will assume that breaking things is OK.