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What? Why? Does it even make sense?

It would be nice if after you probed out a site, it turned "green" in the tactical overview (after you back out of the map screen) and you were able to warp to them/do whatever like the other available always-100% anomalies in the system.

Hacking sites are very difficult to complete, most of the time you do not have enough coherence to survive all of the antiviruses. The sites are usually laggy as well and it sometimes takes a few seconds for clicks to register, which can be frustrating.

When you are able to complete them, the hacking window bugs out and nothing is jettisoned. (Bug ID 157522)

Well, I am noting these down as I scan on Sisi. I hope that counts.

- Shift does the exact opposite of what I am used to it doing. This is going to be the most frustrating period of adaptation ever.
- Customizable formations are absolutely needed.
- When I resize my probes from the probe menu, the probes do not go back into formation in their new size.
- I'd like a better indication of where each individual probe is in the formation. It's just a hazy blue ball by default. Having to press shift after each scan to reorient myself is getting old.
- Can we skip the "shift" part of what is now "shift-alt-drag"? This goes hand-in-hand with the above point.
- I miss the probe scan range overlay on the map, especially since the probe menu isn't reliably updating.
- Not liking how a signature that you scanned to 100% is no longer retained.
- The countdown bar that popped up in the menu that said "scanning" is gone. It was nice to have around, especially when scanning when you aren't in the map menu.
- Where is the timer for how long I've had probes out? The probes still have a "maximum flight time" value, so I assume they still have a lifetime, but I have no idea what it is. This is doubly important if you can only launch probes if you have at least seven -- having fewer than seven is a death sentence, so you really want to know when your probes are going to expire.
- Speaking of, not being able to launch probes if you have fewer than seven probes in your possession is silly. You do not need seven probes to scan something down. Pre-Odyssey, if you're trapped in a wormhole with six probes, you can escape. Post-Odyssey, you either take the pod express home or sit tight and hope someone finds you, even though if those probes were in space you could scan down every signature with ease.
- The scanning overlay animation is getting old already. It's pretty and all, but I'm going to have it on constantly.

I'm not terribly pleased about being able to see signatures as they spawn without having to have probes out at all. One of the charms of wormholes is that you don't have that luxury.

I honestly can't tell at this point whether the usability hits/my issues with it are due more to bugs or to design. I will come back to this later after some bug fixes have rolled out (and please do some fixing; I can't simulate life on TQ if half of the things I do are glitchy) and give more feedback then.

When changes don't make sense, you could at least elaborate. Or is it CCP corp policy to just drop the ball and call it done? Honestly, I'm fed up from Amarr BS thread already, to start yet another doscussion on "changes".

If you resize the probes with a drag, the range in the scanner doesn't update until you hit scan. likewise if you change the size from the menu. They change on screen, but the range doesn't update.

The pinpoint formation is nice :) though if you resize the probes from the menu, it doesn't recentre them.

Probes don't have any duration any more? (I hadn't seen that update)


You can only launch 7 probes at a time, rather than being able to poke by with less and using skills to compensate.
If you try launching again, it says that you're already controlling 6 probes, which is the max for your skills (astrometrics 3 atm) looks like a missed error message.

(I assume the mini-game for hacking isn't in yet, as I'm just opening up the cans)


How about adding 'recall probes' to the right click menu of the probe launcher? For those times we forget to, before closing the menu

I had the same experience. I also find shift+alt a not very ergonomic combination if you use it a lot. Should't be a problem tho as long as the shortcut can be customized. But shouldnt stay the default either for the quoted reason.

Overall i find the scanning more pleasent and streamlined after getting used to it. But i agree with everybody that there should still be an 8th probe, customizable patterns and so on in order not to dumb the whole thing down for the more advanced probers.

Another thing, not sure if this is the right thread for it but i simply don't get the hacking game. On top of that it's extremely laggy/unresponsive.

Interesting. I'm one of those guys that is constantly switching keyboard layouts and I hadn't noticed this but of course I don't type a lot on my local since there is no one to talk to (forever alone '). I guess the best way is to simply have alt pop up the other controls and then function as before.

I have some questions and then some information listed below. I am asking you all and especially CCP to take a look at this. Thank you.

Since the current skills are 5x and 8x mulitpliers, it means that more skillpoints have been trained for that skill. When the Odyessey changes are implemented, it will require less skillpoitns per level. Will the extra skillpoints that have already been trained for those respective skills, be put toward the skill's next level or will they simply vanish? Will a Level 4 skill currently in TQ, become Level 4.2 or 4.5 (meaning that it is closerto level 5 because of the skillpoints already trained). If so, what will be given to those who have already trained those skills to level 5?


In all due respect, please take a look at the following:

Astrometric Acquisition and Astrometric Pinpointing currently are 5x multiplier skills. To get from Level 0 to Level 4 in these respective skills, requires 226,275 skillpoints. Astrometric Rangefinding is a 8x multiplier skill which needs 362,039 skillpoints to get from Level 0 to Level 4.

The new skill changes will make Astrometric Acquisition and Astrometric Pinpointing 2.5x, although I imagine this rounds up to 3x multiplier. To reach Level 4 with a 3x multiplier skill requires 135,765 skillpoints. This means, that after the skills are adjusted for the Odyssey release, Capsuleers that have trained these skills to Level 4 will lose 90,510 skillpoints per skill.

Astrometric Rangefinding would become a 4x multipler skill, now needing only 181,020 to reach Level 4. Capsuleers that have trained this skill will lose 181,019 skillpoints.

That would be a total loss of 362,039 skillpoints if you have currently trained those skills to Level 4. It would be an even greater deficit if you have trained those skills to Level 5.

If you are average 1,900 sp/hour. Then 362,039/1,900 = 190.55 hours lost or 7.94 days thrown out the window. I don't see how losing over a week worth of training is irrelevant.

I believe everything that I want to say has already been said.

-8 probes

-ability to launch just one or 4 probes

-scan percentage

-sort by ID/type/range/strength

-alt+shift changes keyboard layout, thank you very ******* much

And do you realize that deviation modifier of 0.75*0.75 is 0.5625 and not 0.5 like it was before?
Its not just 1.25*1.25=1.5625 for strength.
Are 7 probes at lest as strong as 8 were before?

Remove warp to button we don't want it, I believe I can speak for all of us actual scanners.

This seems incredibly RUSHED, I suggest you tweak it A LOT before oddy or there will be blood on the forums.

What... Skillpoints lost? ....
--Edit-- Looks like we keep our skillpoints they are just made relatively useless.

nvm