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If you would have read all the way through his post you would have seen that he wants them to stay by his ship on the map view so he can do on grid scanning.

Let us be clear, many many people do not like what they currently seeing on SiSi. On the other hand many do like the direction the dev team is going. You cannot please all the people all the time. So let us take stock:

How could the dev team have proceeded when tasked with doing something with scanning. Two options come to mind. First they could have posted a survey asking for feedback. Second they could have started a feedback thread asking for ideas on how to improve the existing system.

So here we are. What can we all do now?

The build on SiSi can only be described as an Alpha build. Essentially broken with interesting possibilities but over all poor execution. The feedback has been mostly negative. Understandable. A lot of the feedback has been constructive and the devs appear to be taking it seriously.

I recommend starting a Version 2 of this thread when the next build hits SiSi. Why? Because we need to give considered, reasonable feedback to that build. A lot of the dev replies in this thread are getting lost/missed as people do not want to wade through 51 pages to find dev replies.

There really is little time before June, we need to get this right because CCP is quite poor at fixing things post go live: New thread for the next build and considered constructive feedback for BOTH good and poor functionality.

i agree on new thread on next build, it will be better as what is on Sisi atm is not fit for internal testing let alone Duality its really impossible to test it with so many code errors unlinked features that need linking and basic design errors, its like buying a car today and getting a box of model T parts to self assemble instead of a e class merc.

also i suggest the dev team start playing it on 21" screens and laptops to see what joe average who plays eve gets to look at, its surprising what monitor size does to a game with silly tablet mini games that take up the whole screen and break immersion, its like alt tabing out of eve, yeah, did they think of that at all, i bet you it never crossed their minds in any meaning full way.

Hello
I`m not a really bit explorer
I log in SISI yestarday and i dont like the new sistem because:
The new "windshield" sistem overlay is messed up, i dont want some damn curtain to be drawn on my eyes everytime i move my ship, It feel like i need to look in space through dirty glasses, I dont like it, put a option to disable it, and put sigs in a list.

'Instant action menu' still keeps active until logoff. You activate it just one time and no matter what you do - press it again or change a system - it keeps calling radial menu instantly. I mean, you just use it once, then you don't press it anymore, but the radial menu will pop up instantly on every simple click. AFAIK only logoff helps.

when site is scaned to 100% and it is warpable, and then i scan next site in this system, without returning probes to cargo, the warpable/scaned 100% site disaper, and i must scan this site again, scaned site shuold stay 100% scaned in system scaner in the same scaning sesion if i start scaning other sites

Just so you devs don't think players are unanimous in hating that the probe positioning is now at the system center by default: I very much like this change. Every prober starts scanning a system from the center outwards, because most of the planets are usually clustered in the center and thus most signatures are there. That CCP has made this change shows that the person who made that actually plays the game and knows how explorers work.

The far less common case of combat probing on your grid or very close to your ship may involve moving your probes once... big deal

"every prober" thats total bullshit, you maybe the cookie cutters aka 60%, but you just pulled that out of your ar*e, probes and probing to those that do it daily relies on personal preference, confirming unwanted known sigs and removing them, that is not done with a super probe or from the centre.

All this abortive attempt shows is they want to reinvent from scratch instead of upgrade and refine using existing known reliable systems, they don´t explore they play at it sometimes and only at a rookie or basic level as they do not have the time to invest at work or at home to be proficient in it and make isk.

they really are raging against those who took to the profession, which has become devalued due to over supply of rewards, and the increased competition who at low skill levels get ar*e mopped by elite players who have invested months in skills (which get thrown away and not compensated for), they cant get it to work so they are changing it to how they think they can work it and overlay some shiny shiny to keep the morons happy.

Ok maybe I shouldn't have said "everyone". But certainly your pov isn't representative of everyone either.

I spend maybe ~70% of my play time scanning and have probed down 1500 signatures in the last 3 months alone (yes I use a tool that counts this automatically :p). So I'm not a casual scanner I think.

The new system is *not* reinventing anything from scratch, scanning still works the same in principle. It just becomes faster for everyone, which means that a bad scanner will be faster than now, but a good scanner will be even faster than the bad scanner. And I love this change. Because while I love scouting and exploration, it is more for what I will find (pvp hopefully, or at least nice pve sites) than for the scanning itself. Which is okay, but not so exciting that I want to spend hours on it everyday I play EVE, as I do currently.

You use a tool !!!!!!!!., and count how many, oh do you register what type in a database, correlate it with system/constellation/region and have worked out the spawn algorithm?

It is A Super Probe in everything but name, if you cannot see that no wonder you need a tool.

scanning is the on-board that everyone can use to get low lvl ded sites, probing is where reward for effort comes in, so yeah, not even a moron does it for just fun.