Test Server Feedback

The new build still doesn't have short range ship distances listed, as my corp director Capqu just posted. Also a multitude of other problems, like having to bookmark ships on grid before you warp to them.

Apparently we're not getting the message across regarding combat probing, so I drew a picture to show you exactly what we're talking about and why it's absolutely the wrong idea to remove close range probe distances.

http://i.imgur.com/SfBhdl7.gif

You do know that Combat Scanner Probes still exist and are capable of detecting ships and structures as well?

I am sorry to bring this to your attention but the DSP requires the same launcher as combat probes.

I'm sorry, what? Do you even know what you are talking about?

Don't forget to include in the features for the test server where you made scanning ships obsolete.

Did someone mention we can't copy and paste the scanner results anymore?

This is very very bad, mmh'kay.

I spent like an hour drawing this other picture of how probing and bombing work together, but was informed that you probably won't look/read at hardly any of it.

So I'd like to just say that if we can't figure out what we're warping to and coordinate our probing between the bombers and the dictor, there's really no more effective tactics to bomb fleets with. Unless you're going to give us the ability to warp to ships past 150km on the overview.

I consider myself a pretty decent user of probes. Got Astrometrics V and other probing skills to IV. I live in wormhole space and scan most days and have become quite efficient at it.

To test the new probe system I took my scanning Helios, fitted with Sisters Expanded Probe Launcher and two Small Gravity Capacitor Upgrade I's and using Sisters Core probes to Actee a 0.5 system. The new overlay scanner runs and after making myself giddy spinning my ship around to see what's in the system, three unidentified sites pop up so I drop the probes and scan down a signature to 100%. Signature is a 'Crumbling Serpentis Mining Installation' although the text alignment is incorrect and all I see is 'ling Serpentis Mining Installation'. It takes me longer to scan this site down than it used to. I have to get the probes down to 0.25AU. Fairly sure I wouldn't have had to go that far before, although not totally sure as I don't do much k-space scanning. Well maybe that's also a function of the skill changes and new modules for Rangefinding and Pinpointing so I go fit a 'Scan Rangefinding Array I' and a 'Scan Pinpointing Array I' in a nearby system then return to Actee and try scanning again for the same signature. This time I can only get the sig to 94%. Something odd here. So I offline the two modules and do another scan which still gives me 94% sig strength. Surely there should be some change - for the worse I would imagine too. With the modules still offline I change the formation of the probes from Pinpoint to Spread which has the annoying side-effect of resizing the probes. So I resize them to 0.25AU put them back in Pinpoint formation, scan again and there's my signature scanned to 100%. So at this time I would say the scanning system is broken or at least modules and skills are not having their bonuses applied correctly

Also noticed that the scanning overlay doesn't update correctly at the moment. Having warped to the signature I scanned down it's still showing as the same distance away and with the original sig strength.

I think you'll find it didn't used to show distance at all, and they "fixed" it by making it show AU, so no, it isn't. Would be cool if you read through what I originally posted but I guess that's too much to ask.

A quick feedback to the last SISI update. All the bugs I reported are still there, and it seems that none of the changes (like the 8th probe, variable number of probes launchable, etc...) have been implemented. I guess that this update was not about scanning changes.