EVE General Discussion

No mystery there. I'm a noob, I have played the game approximately one month, and I test 0.4 sec systems in noobships because I read on the forums that people should get out of high-sec every once in a while. I simply want to see what's there. So if there are people who get off on attacking noobs in noobships, of course I'm gonna be the "victim" - not that I consider myself much of a victim, as I literally lose nothing. Hell, they lose more in ammo.



I'll be a rational cat one day in the future - attacking mice or birds for a rational game reason. I won't do it just to do it - I would consider it a waste of my time.

Not that I care, but I do think it somewhat strange that on the one hand all one ever hears are people putting down noobs and carebears for staying in high-sec, but the instant one ventures to even a 0.4 system in a non-threatening noobship he gets blown to smithereens. If folks are truly interested in getting more high sec players into lower sec systems (I don't really care either way), it seems a strange way to go about it.

It's quite simple, people really do "get off" on killing anything player related from noob ships to property. This is what I've learned from all types of games from shooters to MMOs like EVE. Since the start of online gaming many many people only play a game to ruin someone's day. EVE can have that hard hitting impact. However...

High sec wars and random PVP never make sense to me. The other side, the aggressor side isn't gaining anything, even if the kill drops something of value. Cost of buying the ship, fitting the ship, arming the ship, stocking the ship with ammo, waiting for a target and killing the target. You have lost everything. ISK, time, maybe even your ship and let's be honest respect from the other player. For what? A almost nothing bounty, a kill board post that few if anyone except yourself even look at?

If you're talking SOV space PVP, now you're talking. You have everything to gain or lose. Everything from the way you sustain yourself and your alliance to the very way you live. PVP makes perfect sense for that and it you wardec them so you can hunt them in high sec space well then go for it i say! I am very aware of mercs who clear out WHs and sov space for people but that's one of the many "careers" one can do in EVE and someone is gaining something in the end like sweet sweet space.

After all these years of playing I truly think people are so bored with themselves that getting the (i'm in not using the term lightly here) "sexual thrill" of killing a player even just your noob ship over and over and over. Is the only way they keep going.

Unless someone has some other reason I'm clearly blind too for such things?

I'd take a shuttle instead of a noob ship if you want to practice low-sec travel, it's almost insta-warp off gates. further to that you need to learn about MWD + cloak tricks for getting past gate-camps and making undock instawarp bookmarks for effortlessly dodging station campers. just google around and you'll find what you need. it's quite rewarding to employ these tactics and leave these guys in the dust. with the right ship fit and a little knowledge you can survive in low on your own.

Some people kill just to kill, the age and history of the character and the ship type are irrelevant to these people. Some hope for some tasty tears that they can rub all over themselves to make them feel better (lots of the scum in EvE kill to bask in another persons misery, so please try not to feed them!). Others can't discount the possibility that any ship could potentially be carrying an absolute fortune in small-sized but high-value items. I've seen examples of very new characters being killed and dropping crazy loot, such as T2 blueprint originals (Obviously an alt of a rich player).

I generally assume that everyone in lowsec is likely to shoot first and not bother asking questions.

But he doesn't do it for no reason, he does it for tears. Which you duly provided. Hopefully he's seen this forum thread now aswell for a bonus session,

Actually, I have studied game theory. I'd be willing to bet my left testicle that the overwhelming number of people who play this game haven't (including the behavior of those you are trying to explain). In other words, I don't think people studying game theory explains this behavior.

And there is possibility of non-benefits. Everybody who shot me with a missle lost, because they paid for the missle but gained nothing. Meanwhile, I lost nothing. It's kind of funny.



If he imagined that I provided tears, and if he imagines that I am providing more now, then more power to him, and I hope he has a good jerk-off session over it. And you too, if that's what floats your boat.

They don't need to have studied game theory to understand that the gains of shooting a noobship(possible cargo loot, denial of enemy intel, tears) outweigh the losses(a bit of ammo, some sec status, a short criminal and weapons lock timer).
And you may have taken me too literally about the tears. You were clearly upset about the loss, or else you wouldn't have discussed the loss with the pirate and made this thread,

SItting on a lowsec gatecamp is hardly a zero risk activity.

How about - all noobships are cynos.

Even if they are not cynos, they are not us.

Shoot it. NBSI is the whole rule of the law.

Having played for one month (I post on an alt), I can honestly say that given my ~10-15 deaths trying to learn PvP, trying out null and low sec and just generally flying about, I haven't had any smack talk yet.

In fact, one of the guys who gave me a particularly embarrassing death convo'd me afterwards and gave me some great advice - some ships I might like given what I'd say I'd like my playstyle to be, skill paths, general tips for PvP, ways to avoid dying in the same way again etc.

I don't doubt the smack talk does happen, but perhaps if you had a more positive attitude you'd see more positives in it.