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Stealth change: all NPC prices went up

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Lady Katherine Devonshire
Royal Ammatar Engineering Corps
#61 - 2013-03-06 13:55:46 UTC
Sadly this will hurt new players far more than veterans.

The sound of the Amarrian heart
Arduemont
Rotten Legion
#62 - 2013-03-06 15:46:38 UTC
There is a bigger question no one is asking.

Q. Why is this a problem?
A. It isn't.

/thread.

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Khoul Ay'd
The Affiliation
#63 - 2013-03-06 16:57:33 UTC
Oh no! I must spend my internet space-loot to play the internet spaceship game!

Whatever, adjust people. It is a GAME! Roll

The things we do today we must live with forever.... Think about it
Frostys Virpio
State War Academy
Caldari State
#64 - 2013-03-06 17:28:40 UTC
Theo Sotken wrote:
@Roime
Lol. So you choose a 200k skillbook as an example.
I have 400 Bantam BPO's I think its gone up about 200,000isk so I just gained 80, 000 ,000 Isk. I just bought an armageddon bpo I think it cost me about an extra 60million isk. My 10 Osprey BPO are now 80million isk up from 72million = an extra 80million isk in value. etc. etc
I'm pretty sure this change is pretty significant


It's not. No matter how many people gain/lose value over this change, it's only a price change. No game mecanics were affected. Industry will just adapt to the new blueprint prices and the skillbook have no real affect beside changing how much isk are burned. If they put a line in the patch notes saying "Adjusted the NPC buy/sell order on some items", people would of asked for details which would have taken pages after pages of listing. It's a waste of time to list all that. Market tools will update thier info when to make a new scan of the market and thats all.
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
#65 - 2013-03-06 17:31:40 UTC
Lady Katherine Devonshire wrote:
Sadly this will hurt new players far more than veterans.

A buffed ISK faucet will benefit everyone.
Jon Ferguson
JC Ferguson and Son Ltd
Ferguson Alliance
#66 - 2013-03-06 18:36:10 UTC
If they were trying to keep it secret, they shouldn't have put it on the test server. It's not like a new game mechanic that might be buggy, it's just changing a price in a database ffs.

After 10 years CCP should have figured out how to prevent players from reaping windfall profits merely by poking around on the test server.

The whole 'new ISK sink, yay' is lost if players hoarded these things ahead of time, as most purchases will be from player to player. All that potential ISK sunk will instead stay in the game and go into the pockets of the hoarders.

CCP should roll back the changes, burn the people who stockpiled, and puzzle some more on how to balance ISK sinks and ISK faucets.
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
#67 - 2013-03-06 18:38:45 UTC
Jon Ferguson wrote:
The whole 'new ISK sink, yay' is lost if players hoarded these things ahead of time, as most purchases will be from player to player.
Seeing as how they are a constant (and very large) ISK sink, hoarding seems unlikely and ultimately futile anyway — people keep buying them and the ISK keeps getting fauceted.

It's a good change.
Saiphas Cain
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#68 - 2013-03-06 19:03:47 UTC
So CCP tightens the thumbscrews on market bots, and then implements changes that induce people to want to use them even more just to make sure they're not losing money with every sale. Working as intended.
Ranger 1
Ranger Corp
Vae. Victis.
#69 - 2013-03-06 21:52:38 UTC
How odd, there appears to be a tempest in my tea cup...

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Andski
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#70 - 2013-03-06 22:50:16 UTC
Lady Katherine Devonshire wrote:
Sadly this will hurt new players far more than veterans.


yes, titan skillbooks costing 1b more is such a burden on new players

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Tyberius Franklin
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#71 - 2013-03-06 23:06:27 UTC
Andski wrote:
Lady Katherine Devonshire wrote:
Sadly this will hurt new players far more than veterans.


yes, titan skillbooks costing 1b more is such a burden on new players

That comment would feel more relevant if only capital skillbooks were changed. Not that this is a big deal all in all.
Irya Boone
The Scope
#72 - 2013-03-07 03:16:15 UTC
Good job ccp Need more dynamic action from Npc , can imagine is the revamp of AI of The Traders NPC

Nice


Just waiting for depleting suns , and death of systems ( in null sec mostly) like in real universe.

CCP it's time to remove Off Grid Boost and Put Them on Killmail too, add Logi on killmails .... Open that damn door !!

you shall all bow and pray BoB
Jack Mayhem
Kaer Industries
#73 - 2013-03-07 09:31:22 UTC
Very good change indeed. EVE needs more ISK sinks, and it would have been massively speculated if announced beforehand.

At least for ship BPOs it seems uniform 11.1% increase.
Kestrix
The Whispering
#74 - 2013-03-07 10:10:20 UTC
Rutger Janssen wrote:
Still no word from CCP on an issue that affects 100% of the eve population.


well not really, I make enough isk not to care about a small rise in prices. Your making a mountain out of a mole hill.
Salpad
Carebears with Attitude
#75 - 2013-03-08 17:43:28 UTC
Doddy wrote:
You do realise that it would be really dumb to put it in the patch notes right?


Up until a couple of years ago, CCP would post "open" patch notes before a patch, and then after the patch note was released and the server updated, they'd update the patch notes with additional text highlighted in green, revealing all the secrets that they didn't want to announce in advance.

They've stopped that custom, for some reason. As far as I can see, not for a good reason.
Croowdrio
Astrometric Aggression
#76 - 2013-03-11 17:22:10 UTC
Khoul Ay'd wrote:
Oh no! I must spend my internet space-loot to play the internet spaceship game!

Whatever, adjust people. It is a GAME! Roll


EVE Is NOT JUST A GAME! >:(
Jita Bloodtear
Bloodtear Labs
#77 - 2013-03-12 06:57:36 UTC
titan books went from 4.5 -> 5.5bil
carrier books from 360 -> 500mil
dread books from 90 -> 100mil+
capital ships book from 450 -> 400mil

Levi BPO 63 -> 70bil
Erebus BPO 65.25 -> 72.5bil
Ragnarok BPO 60.75 -> 67.5
Avatar BPO 67.5 -> 75bil

Wyvern BPO 16.2 -> 18bil
Nyx BPO 18 -> 20bil
Hel BPO 17.1 -> 19bil
Aeon BPO 16.65 -> 18.5bil

Chimera BPO 945mil -> 1.05bil
Thanatos BPO 1.125 -> 1.25bil
Nidhoggur BPO 1.035 -> 1.15bil
Archon BPO 990mil -> 1.1bil

Phoenix BPO 1.755 -> 1.95bil
Moros BPO 1.71 -> 1.9bil
Naglfar BPO 1.665 -> 1.85bil
Revelation BPO 1.8 -> 2bil

Charon BPO 1.8 -> 2bil
Obelisk BPO 1.755 -> 1.95bil
Providence BPO 1.71 -> 1.9bil
Fenrir BPO 1.665 -> 1.85bil

Orca BPO 882 -> 900mil


Capital Armor Plates 1,162,089,720 -> 1,291,157,000
Capital Capacitor Battery 1,032,242,400 -> 1,146,875,900
Capital Cargo Bay 750,332,160 -> 833,638,770
Capital Clone Vat Bay 1,515,076,560 -> 1,683,289,918
Capital Computer System 1,105,558,920 -> 1,228,324,560
Capital Construction Parts 904,994,600 -> 1,005,422,440
Capital Corporate Hangar Bay 1,503,706,320 -> 1,670,715,406
Capital Doomsday Weapon Mount 1,932,198,120 -> 2,146,797,632
Capital Drone Bay 899,000,227 -> 872,235,071
Capital Jump Bridge Array 2,827,208,520 -> 3,141,103,041
Capital Jump Drive 1,497,568,320 -> 1,663,895,689
Capital Launcher Hardpoint 1,254,031,200 -> 1,393,310,128
Capital Power Generator 1,224,056,880 -> 1,360,006,704
Capital Propulsion Engine 1,128,565,800 -> 1,253,500,000
Capital Sensor Cluster 1,082,486,880 -> 1,202,695,471
Capital Shield Emitter 1,176,055,200 -> 1,306,652,373
Capital Siege Array 1,389,029,760 -> 1,543,302,298
Capital Ship Maintenance Bay 1,527,625,080 -> 1,697,290,702
Capital Turret Hardpoint 1,316,341,800 -> 1,463,506,956


The barrier of entry to capital content has just been increased by many billion. This does affects younger characters far more than older characters. It's now that much harder for you to catch up in this aspect of the game.
Ranger 1
Ranger Corp
Vae. Victis.
#78 - 2013-03-12 12:05:51 UTC
Jita Bloodtear wrote:
titan books went from 4.5 -> 5.5bil
carrier books from 360 -> 500mil
dread books from 90 -> 100mil+
capital ships book from 450 -> 400mil

Levi BPO 63 -> 70bil
Erebus BPO 65.25 -> 72.5bil
Ragnarok BPO 60.75 -> 67.5
Avatar BPO 67.5 -> 75bil

Wyvern BPO 16.2 -> 18bil
Nyx BPO 18 -> 20bil
Hel BPO 17.1 -> 19bil
Aeon BPO 16.65 -> 18.5bil

Chimera BPO 945mil -> 1.05bil
Thanatos BPO 1.125 -> 1.25bil
Nidhoggur BPO 1.035 -> 1.15bil
Archon BPO 990mil -> 1.1bil

Phoenix BPO 1.755 -> 1.95bil
Moros BPO 1.71 -> 1.9bil
Naglfar BPO 1.665 -> 1.85bil
Revelation BPO 1.8 -> 2bil

Charon BPO 1.8 -> 2bil
Obelisk BPO 1.755 -> 1.95bil
Providence BPO 1.71 -> 1.9bil
Fenrir BPO 1.665 -> 1.85bil

Orca BPO 882 -> 900mil


Capital Armor Plates 1,162,089,720 -> 1,291,157,000
Capital Capacitor Battery 1,032,242,400 -> 1,146,875,900
Capital Cargo Bay 750,332,160 -> 833,638,770
Capital Clone Vat Bay 1,515,076,560 -> 1,683,289,918
Capital Computer System 1,105,558,920 -> 1,228,324,560
Capital Construction Parts 904,994,600 -> 1,005,422,440
Capital Corporate Hangar Bay 1,503,706,320 -> 1,670,715,406
Capital Doomsday Weapon Mount 1,932,198,120 -> 2,146,797,632
Capital Drone Bay 899,000,227 -> 872,235,071
Capital Jump Bridge Array 2,827,208,520 -> 3,141,103,041
Capital Jump Drive 1,497,568,320 -> 1,663,895,689
Capital Launcher Hardpoint 1,254,031,200 -> 1,393,310,128
Capital Power Generator 1,224,056,880 -> 1,360,006,704
Capital Propulsion Engine 1,128,565,800 -> 1,253,500,000
Capital Sensor Cluster 1,082,486,880 -> 1,202,695,471
Capital Shield Emitter 1,176,055,200 -> 1,306,652,373
Capital Siege Array 1,389,029,760 -> 1,543,302,298
Capital Ship Maintenance Bay 1,527,625,080 -> 1,697,290,702
Capital Turret Hardpoint 1,316,341,800 -> 1,463,506,956


The barrier of entry to capital content has just been increased by many billion. This does affects younger characters far more than older characters. It's now that much harder for you to catch up in this aspect of the game.


This aspect of the game is not, and never was, for younger players. Or players that are tight on money of any age for that matter... most caps and supers are corporate assets.

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Brooks Puuntai
Solar Nexus.
#79 - 2013-03-12 12:10:58 UTC
I thought the Amarr Carrier SB seemed higher then what I remember. I guess that's what I get for putting it off.

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EvilweaselSA
GoonCorp
Goonswarm Federation
#80 - 2013-03-12 15:47:04 UTC
Jita Bloodtear wrote:

The barrier of entry to capital content has just been increased by many billion. This does affects younger characters far more than older characters. It's now that much harder for you to catch up in this aspect of the game.

that list is a whole lotta bpos we own getting more expensive

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