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POSes: I am a small portion of the community

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Proclus Diadochu
Mar Sarrim
Red Coat Conspiracy
#61 - 2013-01-17 05:08:44 UTC
We are the 1%, please cure the disease that is the broken POS.

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Zoldarion Katelo
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#62 - 2013-01-17 05:08:54 UTC
please fix POSes!
Distinguished Gentleman's Boating Club
The Phoenix Aberration
#63 - 2013-01-17 05:10:14 UTC
I would happily take a full expansion devoted just to fixing POS.
Red Coat Conspiracy
#64 - 2013-01-17 05:10:18 UTC
Fix the POS, kthxbye <3

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Nihk Anin
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#65 - 2013-01-17 05:10:59 UTC
I have lived mostly in PoS's for the last 3 of my years playing eve, and they are a total pain.
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#66 - 2013-01-17 05:11:24 UTC
POS's are b0rked...

...must be fixed.

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Rees Noturana
Red Rock Mining Company
#67 - 2013-01-17 05:11:54 UTC
I started reading the direction of CCP for Decade 2.0 and I'm interested and excited. Then I read that the long overdue, much anticipated and talked about Starbase 2.0 is not going to be done?

Avatar based gameplay was never finished. Disappointed, but it wasn't ready. A chance at new exploration and avatar based too? I was excited. Then the project was cancelled.

Now starbases? No. Just no. I'm glad you're getting things turned around but I think you are highly underestimating the value of this revamp. It can literally be the foundation technology of so many cool things in New Eden.

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Shamus O'Reilly
Candy Cabal
#68 - 2013-01-17 05:12:01 UTC
POS revamp please.

For ***** sake even fixing the damn refining arrays would be a decent start! i mean.... 75% over hours of time when i can move all of the ore to a station and get a perfect 100% refine in lowsec or hisec???

Yes. POS's need a revamp. In favor of the smaller entity or larger? i say neither or even in favor of the smaller group. But anything compared to what we have now for it......

Minus WHs and FW deployments give us a reason to use POSs over stations if we choose so

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Jon Obstergo
Red Coat Conspiracy
#69 - 2013-01-17 05:13:09 UTC
On behalf of Obstergo,

We feel that the POS mechanic, as is, should be improved. +97
Peter Dostoevsky
Fast Eddy's X-ploding Diner
#70 - 2013-01-17 05:15:11 UTC
POSes need an overhaul. Seriously. The last time I had to set one up, it was a nightmare.
Lucius Exitius
Brave Newbies Inc.
Brave Collective
#71 - 2013-01-17 05:17:43 UTC
POSs suck please fix this, you promised us now you should come through for us!
Sanctuary of Shadows
Dock Workers
#72 - 2013-01-17 05:24:15 UTC
I've been a wormholer since they first came out, and the limitations with POS's were immediately aparrent. They were obviously broken, and for years now I've been waiting for fixes. The current POS system is just lazy, that's all there is to it. At least just give us a damn personal storage area already, how hard would that be? Too hard, aparrently.
Amarr Empire
#73 - 2013-01-17 05:28:11 UTC
POSes desperately need a rework. At least give us more divisions in the POS modules to accommodate more people!

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Spacewreck Emporium
#74 - 2013-01-17 05:28:30 UTC  |  Edited by: Silvonus
I'm going to try to compose my thoughts on POSs, as CCP said last fanfest that they wanted not just corporate POSs, but individual ones and that they wanted most people in EVE to have one. They have a lot of potential applications in solving a lot of the other problems across EVE (such as being able to have higher refining for nullsec with some nullsec-only anchorable module), or to upgrade a system that a small force could fight over. The possibilities are endless, so why not incorporate those possibilities into the other fixes?

As a temporary measure, can we at least be able to repackage items in CHAs?

Steph Wing
No Dukks Given
#75 - 2013-01-17 05:31:57 UTC
Well gee, if I'm such a small portion of the community then I guess CCP won't miss my monthly fees when I unsub.
Ice Fire Warriors
Infinite Pew
#76 - 2013-01-17 05:32:23 UTC
Please tweak POS's. I understand it may be a big undertaking, but it would really help out with the ones I use in LS and WH's.
Xindi Kraid
Itsukame-Zainou Hyperspatial Inquiries Ltd.
Arataka Research Consortium
#77 - 2013-01-17 05:32:29 UTC  |  Edited by: Xindi Kraid
If I may: I think you are actually marginalizing this issue by mentioning just the effect on wormholes. There are plenty of people living out of POSes in null and plenty of people in high and low sec also use POses for various functions. They are ubiquitous and have an effect on much of the player base. I urge you, Two Step, to try and bring other CSM members on-board with this as well since it affects their constituents as well as your own.

CCP's stance that this just affects the people that manage POSes is a fallacy. Managing a POS is a huge pain in the ass, to be sure, but everyone living at a POS is affected in some way by the haphazard system we have now due to the security issues they have.

POSes tie not only into wormhole exploitation, they also tie in to sovereignty and industry. beyond that, if they were improved, perhaps labs could be rented out to the public, which would could have some benefits in empire space as well. A system so widespread and important in as many aspects as POSes are really needs to have CCP's full attention. Even if it takes a couple expansions, CCP needs to deal with this problem. They need to start laying the groundwork NOW; the sooner they get started, the sooner they can be finished and the sooner they can iterate on that content to improve the EvE experience.

On a semi-unrelated note. A fix that can be done now in a relatively short amount of time is a revival of corporate roles. One of the big issues with POSes is a lack of security. The only roles you can restrict hangar and maint array access to are Config Starbase Equipment and Fuel Manager, so you have to either let everyone access facilities or restrict it and start handing out permission to defuel or dismantle the POS. Adding a couple new roles that access can be restricted to will solve much of the security problem without even touching POSes directly.
Marcus Antovar
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#78 - 2013-01-17 05:32:49 UTC
What the ****? I've been waiting for some good POS changes for way to long. These changes would have huge effects on EVE in general.
Snow Axe
Goonswarm Federation
#79 - 2013-01-17 05:33:11 UTC
I can't believe CCP even needs to be told this after all this time, but here we are. Dear CCP, fix the ******* POS mechanic if you're not going to replace it. The current system isn't even close to adequate.

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Andrew Charante
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#80 - 2013-01-17 05:34:00 UTC
Poses need a rework we've been waiting forever