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EVE Online: Retribution 1.0 Feedback

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Freyasil
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#1841 - 2013-01-14 15:15:22 UTC
Ok i understand that ss and standing are different breeds, however i think if you engage in podding people like quite a few do in market hubs or any other high ss space, They should also take a massive standing hit with the given faction who control the system.

I do not believe its healthy gaming to have a -10 cower in a station in a system which is a 1.0 after he has just blown a pod up in that very system, This is the most cowardly and pathetic form of so called pvp in the game and i do not believe that the current system works well at all.

Also by continuing to allow these so called pvpers to dock freely means they will remain in high sec.

you go on about low sec not being busy enough and want people in thier fighting yet you allow pirates in high sec space where they can sit in a station undock in a frig outrun concord to kill a pod and claim themselves pvpers lol

And now that pod kills show implants and cost its even worse then before!

Eject the knobs from the stations and force them where thier choice of career should take them. low sec where they belong.

Not hiding in a station where their corpes and bountys are safe.
Jasmin Fox
Keeper of the Black Star
#1842 - 2013-01-14 20:12:18 UTC
http://retribution.questionpro.com/

Quote:
You are invited to participate in a survey being held among current EVE Online players.
It will take about 5 minutes of your time to complete.
Your participation in this survey is completely voluntary, however it is very important for us to learn your opinions.
Your information will remain confidential, and data from this research will be reported only in the aggregate.

If you have any questions about this survey, please contact us at the following email address: survey@eveonline.com.
Please begin the survey now by clicking on the Continue button below.

Thank you very much for your time and support.
The CCP Research Team
Necroromantic
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#1843 - 2013-01-15 12:32:54 UTC
Jasmin Fox wrote:
http://retribution.questionpro.com/

Quote:
You are invited to participate in a survey being held among current EVE Online players.
It will take about 5 minutes of your time to complete.
Your participation in this survey is completely voluntary, however it is very important for us to learn your opinions.
Your information will remain confidential, and data from this research will be reported only in the aggregate.

If you have any questions about this survey, please contact us at the following email address: survey@eveonline.com.
Please begin the survey now by clicking on the Continue button below.

Thank you very much for your time and support.
The CCP Research Team


I would do the survey except for a few things..
I have had nothing but lag since DUST was integrated even at log in so the banner did not show till after i had entered my password and started the log in process..

EVEN WITH SUCH AN IMPORTANT SURVEY PLAYERS GET ONLY ONE CHANCE TO PARTICIPATE?????

also like so many other players right now the only reason i bother to log in atm is to change skills - in the hope CCP will unf**k what was a great game - so most player who are upset wont ever see the damned Survey before they change the banner back to selling PLEX - that seemingly has an endless need to be advertised on that log-in page..

CON-grats CCP you still manage to 'cook' any survey results with your limited chance to respond to make it sound like the majority of people support your changes..

If you truely want an 'unbiased' survey then that survey should be independent and out of the hands of your clearly biased employees.

Quick see if you can spot the grammer and spelling mistakes b4 someone else does.. i left them just for you!! :)
Lyssane
Memre
#1844 - 2013-01-16 10:48:33 UTC
i hate to be a bore, but todays patch notes say it will be implemented on 8-1 , just like 1.0.9. Also the patch notes for 1.0.10 aer missing?
Riikard Thexder
ThexCorp Pty-Ltd
Cup Of ConKrete.
#1845 - 2013-01-16 11:36:13 UTC
I have some feedback about rebtribution. Like most of it.....But I think it sucks that you killed the random chance of finding faction spawns in null belts after down time.

Every night (in AU) during our prime game time we have to put up with the DT, and for some of us being able to be the first to cruise the belts made up for this.
There is a lot of risk doing this, especially for players like myself whom are not apart of any of the null alliences and are all alone out there, trying to make a buck...and not get killed doing so.

What ever happened to risk reward ratio..?

Seriously I hardly think it is an exploit rather its an opertunity that you have taken away from us.

BRING BACK THE RANDOM FACTION SPAWNS AFTER DT.

After all shouldnt the early bird get the worm??
Keko Khaan
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#1846 - 2013-01-16 11:47:48 UTC  |  Edited by: Keko Khaan
"11:39:06 Notify You can't take that unless you have the role Can Take Containers From Division 6 Hangar."

Whinery about this change...
Keko Khaan
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#1847 - 2013-01-16 12:52:09 UTC
Riikard Thexder wrote:


BRING BACK THE RANDOM FACTION SPAWNS AFTER DT.



Also bring back random faction spawns after 00:00. Since 4th of decmeber ive got only 1 faction spawn. One domination saint that dropped meta 4 modules and faction ammo. I mean comon no faction spawns after midnght? What that got to do with downtime? Before retribution i got few faction spawns in week after midnight usually. Now seems im getting one / two months and without faction loot.
NEONOVUS
Mindstar Technology
Goonswarm Federation
#1848 - 2013-01-16 13:15:33 UTC
Actually is downtime even occuring?
Ive been playing through the time without issue.
Justin Cody
War Firm
#1849 - 2013-01-16 14:38:15 UTC
Keko Khaan wrote:
Riikard Thexder wrote:


BRING BACK THE RANDOM FACTION SPAWNS AFTER DT.



Also bring back random faction spawns after 00:00. Since 4th of decmeber ive got only 1 faction spawn. One domination saint that dropped meta 4 modules and faction ammo. I mean comon no faction spawns after midnght? What that got to do with downtime? Before retribution i got few faction spawns in week after midnight usually. Now seems im getting one / two months and without faction loot.


you're an idiot. Faction spawns are based on "spawn tables". so when a belt is reset (cleared of pirates or activated for the first time) the random spawn generator picks some stuff from a list of things based on sec status and region and voila! you have a spawn. Clear belts frequently enough and you get faction spawns. Works the same in anomalies...especially in sov space. Do enough of them and you have a chance for a faction spawn.

And yes many times you will only get tag and ammunition. Welcome to EVE.
Oraac Ensor
#1850 - 2013-01-16 14:54:52 UTC
As from today's patch, no sound other than music and UI.
Keko Khaan
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#1851 - 2013-01-16 15:37:24 UTC  |  Edited by: Keko Khaan
Justin Cody wrote:
Keko Khaan wrote:
Riikard Thexder wrote:


BRING BACK THE RANDOM FACTION SPAWNS AFTER DT.



Also bring back random faction spawns after 00:00. Since 4th of decmeber ive got only 1 faction spawn. One domination saint that dropped meta 4 modules and faction ammo. I mean comon no faction spawns after midnght? What that got to do with downtime? Before retribution i got few faction spawns in week after midnight usually. Now seems im getting one / two months and without faction loot.


you're an idiot. Faction spawns are based on "spawn tables". so when a belt is reset (cleared of pirates or activated for the first time) the random spawn generator picks some stuff from a list of things based on sec status and region and voila! you have a spawn. Clear belts frequently enough and you get faction spawns. Works the same in anomalies...especially in sov space. Do enough of them and you have a chance for a faction spawn.

And yes many times you will only get tag and ammunition. Welcome to EVE.


No you are stupid ******** moron. I know where faction spawns are based on you idiot. If you even did read what i typed you would know that oive been getting faction spawns last 3 years. Few faction spawns / every week. But after changes ccp made with retribution ive only got 1 faction spawn / 2 months. And welcome to eve you stupid moron.

Insult me more and i insult you back again you stupid ******** idiot ****.
Alexia Cinnabon
Doomheim
#1852 - 2013-01-16 15:41:55 UTC
I have some important feedback -

The jukebox is gone.
Bring back the jukebox.
Bring back the jukebox.
Bring back the jukebox.
Bring back the jukebox.
Bring back the jukebox.
Bring back the jukebox.
Bring back the jukebox.
Bring back the jukebox.

That is all.
blazegryph
Corpy Hooves
#1853 - 2013-01-16 15:52:20 UTC
Since today's patch (16-1-13) Aura's voice has lowered its level a lot, is almost inaudible . Other sounds are working OK
Riikard Thexder
ThexCorp Pty-Ltd
Cup Of ConKrete.
#1854 - 2013-01-16 22:33:03 UTC
Justin Cody wrote:
Keko Khaan wrote:
Riikard Thexder wrote:


BRING BACK THE RANDOM FACTION SPAWNS AFTER DT.



Also bring back random faction spawns after 00:00. Since 4th of decmeber ive got only 1 faction spawn. One domination saint that dropped meta 4 modules and faction ammo. I mean comon no faction spawns after midnght? What that got to do with downtime? Before retribution i got few faction spawns in week after midnight usually. Now seems im getting one / two months and without faction loot.


you're an idiot. Faction spawns are based on "spawn tables". so when a belt is reset (cleared of pirates or activated for the first time) the random spawn generator picks some stuff from a list of things based on sec status and region and voila! you have a spawn. Clear belts frequently enough and you get faction spawns. Works the same in anomalies...especially in sov space. Do enough of them and you have a chance for a faction spawn.

And yes many times you will only get tag and ammunition. Welcome to EVE.



The problem is that the spawn tables only allows a faction spawn to 'activate' if the belt has been cleared by a player, it used to allow then on reset...but no more.

Retribution 1.0 Patch note
"Downtime can no longer be exploited to increase chances of finding a rare NPC spawn."

But I do not believe that this is an exploit.
Drez Lord
Ravens Nest
#1855 - 2013-01-17 00:34:44 UTC  |  Edited by: Drez Lord
Bounty system is shyte. The only thing it does is feed someones ego. Most of the characters that suicide gank in highsec are alts used for no other purpose. What good is placing a bounty on someone if all they do is stay logged out?

New destroyers were kinda cool. More ship options are usually a good thing but it seems now we have more ganking options.

Sharing kill rights is about as useless as bounties. Ill just keep the alts that have their kill rights out there logged off for the greater part of the 30 day timeframe.

TL:DR - CCP decided to polish some unused parts of their game and called in RETRIBUTION and fed it to us as a new expansion.
Balder Verdandi
Wormhole Sterilization Crew
#1856 - 2013-01-17 06:02:49 UTC
Drez Lord wrote:
Bounty system is shyte. The only thing it does is feed someones ego. Most of the characters that suicide gank in highsec are alts used for no other purpose. What good is placing a bounty on someone if all they do is stay logged out?

New destroyers were kinda cool. More ship options are usually a good thing but it seems now we have more ganking options.

Sharing kill rights is about as useless as bounties. Ill just keep the alts that have their kill rights out there logged off for the greater part of the 30 day timeframe.

TL:DR - CCP decided to polish some unused parts of their game and called in RETRIBUTION and fed it to us as a new expansion.



^^ This.

Guys @ CCP,

You're breaking more stuff than fixing, and pissing off your client base to boot. While I think its great that you're trying to make it easier for truly "new" players (not alts) to get into the game, the old players that have been faithful aren't getting a thing nor are you listening to them. You also need to focus on the folks that have been around and obviously know this game better than you do, and LISTEN to them when they say things like "don't mess with the Unified Inventory". It took you guys way too long to fix that, even after beta testers said it was bad and you pushed it while it was still broken.

I can wait on shiny new ships and all the "pretty" stuff you want to put in the game.

What I can't wait for is a fix to CHA access that's been "in the works" since I started playing over a year ago.
What I can't wait for is your devs to listen to the beta testers on Singularity saying "no" but you push crap to TQ anyway.
What I can't wait for is a client that won't break itself.

There are players out there that want to help you .... but when you don't listen to us, that help will dry up.

It's time to listen.

Long live the failure of "Unified Inventory"!

POS fix dated back to 2006!
Fixy FixIT
Iron Whales
Goonswarm Federation
#1857 - 2013-01-17 11:19:09 UTC
^^ Well Spoken Balder.

It seems like I am constantly playing a Beta version of the game of late.

Surely that's what the test servers are there for ?
Balder Verdandi
Wormhole Sterilization Crew
#1858 - 2013-01-17 11:41:07 UTC
Fixy FixIT wrote:
^^ Well Spoken Balder.

It seems like I am constantly playing a Beta version of the game of late.

Surely that's what the test servers are there for ?




To put it simply ...... no.

When CCP wanted to push the new Unified Inventory, beta testers on Singularity told the devs it was broke and needed more work. CCP and the devs ignored them ..... then pushed it to TQ.

You can look up the thread for the broken UI (it's in my signature below) and you can see it took from May 2012 until last month for a proper fix.

And the logic that "CCP would need an entire release", like Retribution, to fix the problem with tower access and security is absolutely insane because wait for it .......................






That's what CCP did with Retribution. It addressed, and fixed, the problems with the Unified Inventory.


If this is the start of Decade 2.0 ...... I'm not sure I want to be around for it.

Long live the failure of "Unified Inventory"!

POS fix dated back to 2006!
Alexander Renoir
Covenant Trading Agency
#1859 - 2013-01-17 13:29:24 UTC
CCP@ CSM meeting minutes wrote:

The general feeling from CCP is that if bounties are not causing people to leave the game then they aren’t likely to put resources on to a problem that doesn’t exist.


Listen CCP. Two Accounts canceled! Two from me. I know many others that also canceled during your daft new bounty system!

CCP@ CSM meeting minutes wrote:

The goal would be to ensure they understand that having a bounty doesn’t make them attackable in highsec, which Solomon confirmed was a point of confusion on the forums even for experienced players.


The problem is not the confusing thing that some one assume that you are attackable in highsec. This is daft ****. Every one knows that you are not attackable in highsec because of the bounty. AND THIS IS NOT THE PROBLEM!!! The problem is the bounty what you get if you type something into an help channel, or for declining a convo etc.

CCP@ CSM meeting minutes wrote:

Ripley chimed in that she had asked for a report on this from Customer Support and so far the number of people that have petitioned that the bounty system is harassment has been 40.


Daft lie. I allone know nearly 40 people who hates this system. In the german help channel only!
Zoya Talvanen
Section 23
#1860 - 2013-01-17 14:52:08 UTC
Where to begin?

The new bounty system has its good points and bad ones. I was bountied in Jita because someone with more ISK than sense decided a "Wanted" flashmob would be cool.

Server lag has become horrid. Missions had become harder to complete with the merfing of so many things at once, but to lose ships to server lag is an experience. I had my Harpy on a L3, and I was aligned for the dock and at max velocity with armor t about 30% and I hit the warp button. The screen froze. Then the first thing I saw moving again was a blinking mailbox with a message from the insurance company. 4 seconds later my ship blew up. Someone in a drake on a L3 mission reported a similar experience.

It may have been the changes in Retribution or the addition of DUST, but when I clicked on the feedback link at game start, my screen went black and stayed that way. I had to use ctrl-alt-del and start the task manager to get a screen again.

I jump through a stargate to Limbo. Nothing shows in the overview of the new system, nothing works on the screen. The only thing I can do is wait for the Disconnect message or hit escape and quit, and even quitting isn't responsive sometimes.

I approach a station for docking, then I approach the station for docking, then I approach the station for docking.... Get real! I have one of the fastest internet connections availaable in the US and I have this sort of lag?

Color my three accounts gone. That will look better thasn some of the new skins.