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Korinne
The Partisan Brigade
#1421 - 2012-12-11 21:08:47 UTC  |  Edited by: Korinne
Ribikoka wrote:
Korinne wrote:
I agree on the missles generally, but the drake was never unbalanced, people were just ********. Drakes are easy to kill and always have been. Most lowsec pirates make their living killing cocky drake pilots.


Just a question, If the drake is not unbalanced why thats just the only one BC which can made the hardest lvl4 missions and the others is not ?
Because unbalanced. Their tank is, ridiculous strong compared with others. 240hp/sec (2700HP/11.25sec) passive shield recharge ? LOL

A BS with two large repairer can repair 1600HP/11.25 sec. You think about this its a normal thing ???
I dont think so.


It could do those lvl 4s because it was speccing it's tank, in pvp its not OP because you can't do that.

Edit: Also, a 10mn Wolf can do lvl 4s too, as can EVERY OTHER BC, and stealth bombers, and faction frigs and cruisers.
VonKolroth
Anarchist's Anonymous
#1422 - 2012-12-11 22:03:00 UTC  |  Edited by: VonKolroth
Love the tracking checkbox on the D-Scan, and the tracking camera in general. One question, can we get a position choice for our ship itself, much like the tracked target position?

Sent from my Gallente Erabus Titan on -FA- SRP
Rammix
TheMurk
#1423 - 2012-12-11 22:19:33 UTC
VonKolroth wrote:
One question, can we get a position choice for our ship itself, much like the tracked target position?

I've mentioned this several times in different topics. No answer.

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Covert cyno in highsec: https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=296129&find=unread
Karsa Egivand
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#1424 - 2012-12-11 22:43:37 UTC
Rammix wrote:
VonKolroth wrote:
One question, can we get a position choice for our ship itself, much like the tracked target position?

I've mentioned this several times in different topics. No answer.


You can do it somewhat via the camera settings (I think its the graphics menu). But its bare-bones and limited (only left-right and not the full range/width).

I'd also like it if we got the same way to set the ship as we can do it now for the target.
stagz
Perkone
Caldari State
#1425 - 2012-12-11 22:59:16 UTC
Dear CCP,

I would like to bring your attention an exploit in Wardec mechanics. This exploit is preventing my corporation from joining any alliance for the foreseeable future.

I do not believe it is CCPs intention to have the new war dec mechanics permanently stop corporations from joining alliances.
My corporation left its previous alliance on the 30th of November, nearly 2 weeks ago, and we are still locked out of joining an alliance because of exploits surrounding your new war dec mechanics.
outlined here https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=2244162#post2244162

This is totally unacceptable, if you are unable to fix the issue which appears to be the case after a patch which claimed to fix the issue has failed, REMOVE ALL EXPLOIT war decs from my corporation.
Allowing us to play the game that we pay for and subscribe to with out being negatively effected by broken mechanics and the admitted exploitation of other alliances and corporations.
Korinne
The Partisan Brigade
#1426 - 2012-12-11 23:03:54 UTC
stagz wrote:
Dear CCP,

I would like to bring your attention an exploit in Wardec mechanics. This exploit is preventing my corporation from joining any alliance for the foreseeable future.

I do not believe it is CCPs intention to have the new war dec mechanics permanently stop corporations from joining alliances.
My corporation left its previous alliance on the 30th of November, nearly 2 weeks ago, and we are still locked out of joining an alliance because of exploits surrounding your new war dec mechanics.
outlined here https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=2244162#post2244162

This is totally unacceptable, if you are unable to fix the issue which appears to be the case after a patch which claimed to fix the issue has failed, REMOVE ALL EXPLOIT war decs from my corporation.
Allowing us to play the game that we pay for and subscribe to with out being negatively effected by broken mechanics and the admitted exploitation of other alliances and corporations.


While ****** mechanics screwing you sounds bad, and I agree you're getting shat on; you could just, you know, try to actually fight and kill the other corp till they retract the war. Unless it's decshield.
Karsa Egivand
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#1427 - 2012-12-11 23:21:39 UTC
stagz wrote:
Dear CCP,

I would like to bring your attention an exploit in Wardec mechanics. This exploit is preventing my corporation from joining any alliance for the foreseeable future.

I do not believe it is CCPs intention to have the new war dec mechanics permanently stop corporations from joining alliances.
My corporation left its previous alliance on the 30th of November, nearly 2 weeks ago, and we are still locked out of joining an alliance because of exploits surrounding your new war dec mechanics.
outlined here https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=2244162#post2244162

This is totally unacceptable, if you are unable to fix the issue which appears to be the case after a patch which claimed to fix the issue has failed, REMOVE ALL EXPLOIT war decs from my corporation.
Allowing us to play the game that we pay for and subscribe to with out being negatively effected by broken mechanics and the admitted exploitation of other alliances and corporations.


I thought this was fixed as of last patch and those wars should now end (in a week or so).

Isn't this applicable:

https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=2306100#post2306100
https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=2306920#post2306920
stagz
Perkone
Caldari State
#1428 - 2012-12-11 23:25:33 UTC
Its decshield, every time a corp leaves or joins decshield we automatically war dec them and visversa.

Its utter bull****

Quote:
Dec Shield Ambassador 27.0 is joining Dec Shield alliance. Since you are at war with Dec Shield Ambassador 27.0, in 24 hours you will also be at war with Dec Shield.


As you can see other corps who are Dec'd can move around and join alliances, how ever we are stuck in an alliance deadzone.
which has been admitted as an exploit.

If CCP are willing to intervene in the RVB saga where the alliance was defunked through legal sandbox ingame mechanics and they will not intervene here and remove the ILLEGAL EXPLOIT war decs placed on my corporation, this is utter double standards and hypocrisy.
Cygnet Lythanea
World Welfare Works Association
#1429 - 2012-12-11 23:30:45 UTC
Anyone taking bets that we'll see the Jukebox come back as something we can only unlock for plex?
Korinne
The Partisan Brigade
#1430 - 2012-12-12 00:34:18 UTC
Cygnet Lythanea wrote:
Anyone taking bets that we'll see the Jukebox come back as something we can only unlock for plex?


It'll be in the NeX. As well other UI formats. Oh and Faction Towers.
Ribikoka
Royal Amarr Institute
Amarr Empire
#1431 - 2012-12-12 00:40:45 UTC  |  Edited by: Ribikoka
Cygnet Lythanea wrote:
Ribikoka wrote:
[
Just a question, If the drake is not unbalanced why thats just the only one BC which can made the hardest lvl4 missions and the others is not ?
Because unbalanced. Their tank is, ridiculous strong compared with others. 240hp/sec (2700HP/11.25sec) passive shield recharge ? LOL

A BS with two large repairer can repair 1600HP/11.25 sec. You think about this its a normal thing ???
I dont think so.



Actually, before current changes, it was easy to solo even the hardest lvl 4s with most BC. Drake was no where near alone in that. And, bluntly, my battleship passive shield tank fits easily did 3k in 11 secs. Large T2 reppers are a waste of space.



This answer is simple not true.
I want to see when u can do with a lonely BC the Enemies Abound missions if that is not a Drake.
Or Blood Blockade when the NPCs neuts your cap from 45km distance + use TDs.
And htfing care what u tanking with your BS when we talked about BCs ?
Next time you will talking about super cap tank abilities, when we will talking the BCs?
I Love Boobies
All Hail Boobies
#1432 - 2012-12-12 00:44:29 UTC
I will give any Dev 1 million isk if they respond in this thread!
Korinne
The Partisan Brigade
#1433 - 2012-12-12 00:46:16 UTC  |  Edited by: Korinne
Ribikoka wrote:
Cygnet Lythanea wrote:
Ribikoka wrote:
[
Just a question, If the drake is not unbalanced why thats just the only one BC which can made the hardest lvl4 missions and the others is not ?
Because unbalanced. Their tank is, ridiculous strong compared with others. 240hp/sec (2700HP/11.25sec) passive shield recharge ? LOL

A BS with two large repairer can repair 1600HP/11.25 sec. You think about this its a normal thing ???
I dont think so.



Actually, before current changes, it was easy to solo even the hardest lvl 4s with most BC. Drake was no where near alone in that. And, bluntly, my battleship passive shield tank fits easily did 3k in 11 secs. Large T2 reppers are a waste of space.



This answer is simple not true.
I want to see when u can do with a lonely BC the Enemies Abound missions if that is not a Drake.
Or Blood Blockade when the NPCs neuts your cap from 45km distance.
And htfing care what u tanking with your BS when we talked about BCs ?


It is true, you're just doing it wrong.

Edit: Given you're engrish, I can see how your ability to play Eve is also lacking, as you still have to be able to read to play Eve.
Ribikoka
Royal Amarr Institute
Amarr Empire
#1434 - 2012-12-12 01:04:19 UTC  |  Edited by: Ribikoka
Korinne wrote:
Ribikoka wrote:
Cygnet Lythanea wrote:
Ribikoka wrote:
[
Just a question, If the drake is not unbalanced why thats just the only one BC which can made the hardest lvl4 missions and the others is not ?
Because unbalanced. Their tank is, ridiculous strong compared with others. 240hp/sec (2700HP/11.25sec) passive shield recharge ? LOL

A BS with two large repairer can repair 1600HP/11.25 sec. You think about this its a normal thing ???
I dont think so.



Actually, before current changes, it was easy to solo even the hardest lvl 4s with most BC. Drake was no where near alone in that. And, bluntly, my battleship passive shield tank fits easily did 3k in 11 secs. Large T2 reppers are a waste of space.



This answer is simple not true.
I want to see when u can do with a lonely BC the Enemies Abound missions if that is not a Drake.
Or Blood Blockade when the NPCs neuts your cap from 45km distance.
And htfing care what u tanking with your BS when we talked about BCs ?


It is true, you're just doing it wrong.

Edit: Given you're engrish, I can see how your ability to play Eve is also lacking, as you still have to be able to read to play Eve.


Never was true. Thats same when someone say it, i can make lvl4 mission with my AF. LOL. Prove it.
I can make lvl4 missions with AF too, but not everyone.
I want to see a video from you when you make the blood blockade with your AF alone. AF or other BC.
I want to see how many time you will lose your ship or warping out from mission site.
But with a Drake you can manage all lvl4 missions. No matter which is it.Not need to warp out, just hit F1 button sometimes. I dont tell it, a lvl4 mission is fast job with a passive drake, but alllvl4 mission trouble-free with a Drake compared with other BCs.
Who dont see that the Drake tank abilities is ridiculous compared to other BCs, that is just an incompetent player in Eve.
The Drake tanking abilities much than 2x bigger than any armor BC, except spec fitted myrmidon too with 3x repairer.
Just as i told 2700HP/11.25 sec without cap!!!! More than 3 large armor repairer HP amount in one cycle. And you talking about this is normal and balanced thing. LOL
Korinne
The Partisan Brigade
#1435 - 2012-12-12 01:11:36 UTC  |  Edited by: Korinne
Oh let me just get my extra hdd with all of my mission walkthrough videos on it. There is more to missioning than just warping in and tanking.

Edit: Besides, you know what else that mission drake of yours is good for? Not a damned thing. I'm sorry you haven't figured out how Eve's combat mechanics work, but that's not the Drake's fault, it's yours.
stagz
Perkone
Caldari State
#1436 - 2012-12-12 01:14:58 UTC
Karsa Egivand wrote:
stagz wrote:
Dear CCP,

I would like to bring your attention an exploit in Wardec mechanics. This exploit is preventing my corporation from joining any alliance for the foreseeable future.

I do not believe it is CCPs intention to have the new war dec mechanics permanently stop corporations from joining alliances.
My corporation left its previous alliance on the 30th of November, nearly 2 weeks ago, and we are still locked out of joining an alliance because of exploits surrounding your new war dec mechanics.
outlined here https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=2244162#post2244162

This is totally unacceptable, if you are unable to fix the issue which appears to be the case after a patch which claimed to fix the issue has failed, REMOVE ALL EXPLOIT war decs from my corporation.
Allowing us to play the game that we pay for and subscribe to with out being negatively effected by broken mechanics and the admitted exploitation of other alliances and corporations.


I thought this was fixed as of last patch and those wars should now end (in a week or so).

Isn't this applicable:

https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=2306100#post2306100
https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=2306920#post2306920


Unfortunately we have been told it has been fixed previously, and it has not.

All the wars we are currently under are 100% invalid and exploits, CCP should delete them and allow us to go about our business.

They intervene in other cases of exploitation, why should this be any different, making us wait 3weeks while they fumble around is unacceptable when the issue can be fixed with the click of a button, until they have found a way to fix their broken mechanic.

This has got to the point of ridiculousness.
Its hard to run an alliance when u cant join it.. DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT, NOT IN A WEEK OR A MONTH, NOW!
Aesjtek
Iprax Cline
#1437 - 2012-12-12 01:20:07 UTC
T-II missiles NERF'D as well. Sad


Spc One wrote:
What patch notes don't tell you:

EXPANSION ABOUT NERFS, Because Missiles were ok for 6 years now but now they're overpowered.

a.) PVE

1. All missile ships are now obsolete (very low range and decreased damage)
2. All Drone ships are now obsolete due to new AI (your drones get targeted as soon as you deploy them)
3. All ships that rely on drones for protection against frigates are obsolete
4. NPC's tracking disruptor now affects optimal range and falloff instead of just optimal range, which makes 800mm's minmatar ships obsolete in pve.
5. All npc complexes and ark missions are now insanely hard to do, you can't use drones
6. There are only few ships that can save you from mission if you loose all of your drones and get stuck (scrambled with npc agression).
7. New meta 9 - 14 drone modules are obsolete for pve, since ai will always shoot your drones.
8. If you use marauders or other ships for guristas missions you'll get perma jammed, there's nothing you can do since you can't use drones.

b). PVP
1. All Heavy Missile ships are now obsolete
2. Drake is worst battlecruiser for pvp
3. Hurricane got nerfed so it is kinda useless now
4. Tengu now sucks compared to other t-3's
5. Very hard to gank someone ratting in low sec or 0.0 with stealth bombers or frigate since npc's will switch targets
Ribikoka
Royal Amarr Institute
Amarr Empire
#1438 - 2012-12-12 01:28:00 UTC  |  Edited by: Ribikoka
Korinne wrote:
Oh let me just get my extra hdd with all of my mission walkthrough videos on it. There is more to missioning than just warping in and tanking.

Edit: Besides, you know what else that mission drake of yours is good for? Not a damned thing. I'm sorry you haven't figured out how Eve's combat mechanics work, but that's not the Drake's fault, it's yours.


I can wait because i want to see, how you lost your cap instantly when the blood HACS fly in to the mission. Or see when 6 frigate webbed you in the Enemies Abound.
And yes i know how the eve mechanics working thats why i have almost 15k killmails with my all characters,and thats why i could finished with 6 blockade within 48 minutes with my two ship, but you dont know how work EVE think to me.
Just wrote me and i will teach you with my 9 years experience how eve work.
I see, you trying to save your mission ships, but the numbers of tank abilities not lying.
Korinne
The Partisan Brigade
#1439 - 2012-12-12 01:30:08 UTC
Ribikoka wrote:
Korinne wrote:
Oh let me just get my extra hdd with all of my mission walkthrough videos on it. There is more to missioning than just warping in and tanking.

Edit: Besides, you know what else that mission drake of yours is good for? Not a damned thing. I'm sorry you haven't figured out how Eve's combat mechanics work, but that's not the Drake's fault, it's yours.


I can wait because i want to see, how you lost your cap instantly when the blood HACS fly in to the mission.
And yes i know how the eve mechanics working thats why i have almost 15k killmails with my all characters, but you dont think to me.
Just wrote me and i will teach you with my 9 years experience how eve work.
I see, you trying to save your mission ships, but the numbers of tank abilities not lying.


Calling shenanigans on the 9 years of experience if you don't know how to run a lvl 4 in an AF, or a bomber, or a T3, or a faction anything.
Ribikoka
Royal Amarr Institute
Amarr Empire
#1440 - 2012-12-12 01:42:29 UTC  |  Edited by: Ribikoka
Korinne wrote:
Ribikoka wrote:
Korinne wrote:
Oh let me just get my extra hdd with all of my mission walkthrough videos on it. There is more to missioning than just warping in and tanking.

Edit: Besides, you know what else that mission drake of yours is good for? Not a damned thing. I'm sorry you haven't figured out how Eve's combat mechanics work, but that's not the Drake's fault, it's yours.


I can wait because i want to see, how you lost your cap instantly when the blood HACS fly in to the mission.
And yes i know how the eve mechanics working thats why i have almost 15k killmails with my all characters, but you dont think to me.
Just wrote me and i will teach you with my 9 years experience how eve work.
I see, you trying to save your mission ships, but the numbers of tank abilities not lying.


Calling shenanigans on the 9 years of experience if you don't know how to run a lvl 4 in an AF, or a bomber, or a T3, or a faction anything.



Man just as i told you, just prove it or your words is just blabla, nothing else. Some specifics lvl4 is impossible to make with AF (some blood missions etc) because short range orbit is not enough to evade hits or the AF just suffer from EW and always need to warp out from danger.
And do you want to do with t3 ? lvl4 with a t3 is too hard for you or what ? LVL4 with a t3 ship easier than any BS.