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That depends on circumstances:

Telling the salvage drones to salvage without a target should get them to work on all wrecks nearby. At the very least corp-owned wrecks should be suitable targets.

EDIT:
A keyboard shortcut for salvaging (or making the 'engage' shortcut work for salvage drones too) would be greatly appreciated.

"Passive" should auto-salvage white and blue wrecks, "Aggressive" should grab everything in sight.

And you're aware, of course, that activities like can flipping and mission loot stealing were designed to bait the miner or missioner into shooting first? Which, by CONCORD's definition, makes them the criminal? Do you really want that system back?

I don't. We'll see how the new system shakes out, but the old one was convoluted and counterintuitive, and all that meant was that griefers who'd had the time and experience to understand the rules could prey on new or casual players who hadn't had that experience or taken that time. What kind of justice is that?

The basic hypothesis of the new system is sound: players are going to be better judges than any computer. Not always, but then this is a game where people shooting other people is a core aspect of the gameplay.

I like the little touch of misogyny there. It really drives your point home.

And the motto "don't fly what you can't afford to lose" predates this expansion by years.






I dont disagree with most of what you are saying about the holes in the old system however i do not believe you fix holes by further ripping open the hole.... players are now able to bounty a player for nothing more than asking for help in the help chat - as I was.. this action is just a further extension of trolling and is designed to antagonize the victim and is an offence under eve's current terms.. as displayed @

http://community.eveonline.com/pnp/chatrules.asp

Personal attacks are prohibited.
Commonly known as "flaming," personal attacks are statements which are designed to personally berate or insult another. Text of this nature is not beneficial to the community spirit and will not be tolerated. Corporation, faction members and other players are cautioned to avoid allowing an "in character" dispute become an "out of character" personal attack. The game is designed for role playing and/or portraying a role and it is sometimes easy for tempers to flare when the lines between the virtual world and the real world are crossed. Keep ingame disputes out of these channels, please.

Trolling is prohibited.
"Trolling" is the phrase used to describe a remark which is deliberately designed for the purpose of angering and insulting the members of the community. Comments of this nature are disruptive and will not be tolerated.

Further i think that the following paragraph from rules and policies very much sums up the mentality associated with unprovoked random bounties..

http://community.eveonline.com/pnp/terms.asp


You may not do anything that interferes with the ability of other EVE Online subscribers to enjoy the game or web site in accordance with its rules. This includes, but is not limited to, making inappropriate use of any public channels within the game and/or intentionally creating excessive latency (lag) by dumping cargo containers, corpses or other items in the game world.

Now as for the phrase don't fly anything you cant afford to lose is fine if you have 5 years plus training behind you. however players new to the game or players like myself who have started from scratch again after over 6 years training the same pilot you fly what you are trained to fly and if like myself you wanna be a carebear and fight npc's over the constant pvp action of null space then I should be allowed to play in relative piece as the paragraph above clearly states.. the way the bounties is currently administered is imo in direct conflict with CCP's own terms...

And in over 6 years as a paying member i have never had a bounty placed on me until they made this change and im sure a lot of others who have had random bounties placed on them have not been bountied before either..

CCP advocate that there is room for all types of players and if the current bounty system is continued then this would only prove to reinforce your understanding of that the only way to play is 'pick a side and pvp'... i got bored of sitting in null waiting for hours to take part in big fleet fight that lasted 5-10 mins before i'm floating in my pod or back at a station in a new clone.

http://community.eveonline.com/pnp/chatrules.asp
quote from above terms..
Be community-minded.
Express yourself in ways that are constructive and will help to foster the growth of the community. A free exchange of ideas is essential to building a strong sense of community and helpful in the development of the game.

random bounties in chats designed to help players really doesn't fit the above statement..

personally though i think the discussion of whether the new bounty office is being exploited and used to justify unprovoked attacks on other players needs to be addressed by CCP and the fact they have not and are not replying to petitions on this subject is concerning to anyone who is affected by the change...

ok, not sure if this has been brought up before, but i noticed earlier today while i was ratting with the talwar, that even though all seven launchers were grouped together, only one launcher was firing and using ammo. Has anyone else seen this?

I think the drone hate is a little on the high side. My droneswarm (25 hobs, 10 hammerheads, 5 gardes) puts out 968 dps. An active player, with near 1000 dps, should be able to kill a pack of standard belt rats fast enough to avoid regularly losing drones. As it is now, I lose at least one hammerhead every time rats spawn. Im swapping them out for hobs next time, to see if that tips the scales in favor of the rats attacking the hulks instead.

I think the standing drone rage is regarding the insta-agro on drones now received in agent missions and the fact a lot of players cant take on HAC's and elite frigs without the aid of drones esp if there are warp jammers in the mission making some missions now pure suicide rather than profitable.. why they did this when introducing so many changes to frigs and destroyers to promiote drone boats if they intended to kill all usefulness of those ships with the same update..

Personally i have not found any big issues with agent missions being harder or taking longer to finish, but then it took me 1-2 full reloads to kill some hac's and elite frigs even before the patch

CCP, please address the overwhelmingly negative response to the removal of jukebox. Or do we have to burn Jita again?

Please do something about this whole 'Locked' thing under the target reticule. It flashes and is annoying as crap. As if the GIANT FRIGGIN CIRCLE WITH SPINNING ARROWS AROUND IT wasn't enough already. In fact, get rid of all of that crap.

You have played this game before, right? Since when has 'legal' or 'illegal' impacted suicide players?