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Nene Ryuseika
The Ryuseika Group
#361 - 2012-12-05 01:18:06 UTC
Looks like salvage drones will only go off and salvage by themselves if you are the one who made the wreaks.

For anyone else trying to use salvage drones on friendly wreaks its target and engage one at a time. - so more effort than just a salvager.

I'de really like to know if this is bug or proper function?

I would like to know if Its going to stay this way I might as well stop training the skill and dump em drones.




Also the lack of corp hangers on the carrier has just made a total mess of fittings, ammo fuel and loot. :S

And containers don't help - other people can't access them.
hanabal drake
Hogyoku
Goonswarm Federation
#362 - 2012-12-05 01:18:53 UTC
im having some really bad glitching problems to the point where the game is just impossible to play is anyone else having these problems and what can i do to sort this out ive already turned all settings to low and cleared cache files anything else........ need heklp with this Sad
beastkiller69
Caldari Fighter
#363 - 2012-12-05 01:19:44 UTC
Spc One wrote:
What patch notes don't tell you:

EXPANSION ABOUT NERFS, Because Missiles were ok for 6 years now but now they're overpowered.

a.) PVE

1. All missile ships are now obsolete (very low range and decreased damage)
2. All Drone ships are now obsolete due to new AI (your drones get targeted as soon as you deploy them)
3. All ships that rely on drones for protection against frigates are obsolete
4. NPC's tracking disruptor now affects optimal range and falloff instead of just optimal range, which makes 800mm's minmatar ships obsolete in pve.
5. All npc complexes and ark missions are now insanely hard to do, you can't use drones
6. There are only few ships that can save you from mission if you loose all of your drones and get stuck (scrambled with npc agression).
7. New meta 9 - 14 drone modules are obsolete for pve, since ai will always shoot your drones.
8. If you use marauders or other ships for guristas missions you'll get perma jammed, there's nothing you can do since you can't use drones.

b). PVP
1. All Heavy Missile ships are now obsolete
2. Drake is worst battlecruiser for pvp
3. Hurricane got nerfed so it is kinda useless now
4. Tengu now sucks compared to other t-3's
5. Very hard to gank someone ratting in low sec or 0.0 with stealth bombers or frigate since npc's will switch targets



agreed ccp get your stuff together
Barakkus
#364 - 2012-12-05 01:20:38 UTC
Please make the constant buzzing noise stop when ever there's a session change when you have an aggression timer or when an aggression timer is initiated, it's really irritating.

http://youtu.be/yytbDZrw1jc
Korinne
The Partisan Brigade
#365 - 2012-12-05 01:23:29 UTC
So gate guns don't your drones now, but everything else does.
Vaerah Vahrokha
Vahrokh Consulting
#366 - 2012-12-05 01:26:04 UTC
Ranger 1 wrote:
As usual, a thread full of people who haven't looked at the patch notes, dev blogs, or player created threads that have been around for weeks or in many cases months explaining these changes and how to cope with them.

Things like:

How to hunt rats successfully with drones without losing them all.


You mean by exploiting a bug or buying a Tengu?


Ranger 1 wrote:

Showing that the new icons are no bigger, just laid out differently... and can be put into multiple rows now (and stay there) for sorting your targets.


You mean you can revert back to rectangular targetting just by reading the forums?

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Tyberius Franklin
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#367 - 2012-12-05 01:27:57 UTC
Ranger 1 wrote:
How to hunt rats successfully with drones without losing them all.

I haven't actually heard a long term fix for this yet save to take advantage of a bug which will be patched out.
Vaerah Vahrokha
Vahrokh Consulting
#368 - 2012-12-05 01:29:45 UTC
Tara Tyrael wrote:


And CPP, remove the new sounds. They are terrible. Whats next, ship models done in MS Paint?


The new Mega has already been done in MS Paint. Lol

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Mikhail Nehalem
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#369 - 2012-12-05 01:30:10 UTC
I just really want a way to mute this noise (without muting all UI noise) that won't go away and makes me think my headphones are broken. Love the visual timers, hate the noise.
Ranger 1
Ranger Corp
Vae. Victis.
#370 - 2012-12-05 01:30:11 UTC  |  Edited by: Ranger 1
Vaerah Vahrokha wrote:
Ranger 1 wrote:
As usual, a thread full of people who haven't looked at the patch notes, dev blogs, or player created threads that have been around for weeks or in many cases months explaining these changes and how to cope with them.

Things like:

How to hunt rats successfully with drones without losing them all.


You mean by exploiting a bug or buying a Tengu?


Ranger 1 wrote:

Showing that the new icons are no bigger, just laid out differently... and can be put into multiple rows now (and stay there) for sorting your targets.


You mean you can revert back to rectangular targetting just by reading the forums?


Since CCP has said the recall and/or repair tactic is perfectly fine to use until they bring in the new drone UI and/or have a chance to fine tune the drone aggro settings it is neither an exploit nor a Tengu. Smile

And no, I mean exactly what I said concerning Icons.

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Galmas
United System's Commonwealth
#371 - 2012-12-05 01:30:44 UTC
Prometheus Lapetos wrote:
All you nubs crying about tiny flaws in a great system and threatening to leave cause u cant exploit old game mechanics any more good bye and farewell dont expect the tru gamers to miss you.

The Last dev blog said everything needed to be said almost all your complaints were address with what was going to happen.. Mission runners and drones.. What did you think sleeper AI meant... Learn the game mechanics before you complain about stuff.. if you dont understand the mechanic your problem not ccp's..

This AI change works great to reduce the Expoit of afk players simply dropping drones in sites and going afk and farming.. I.E Deltole where drrons boats were previously address about being afk and farming bounties... this is a step above that....

The missle range nerf was already stated.. we didnt expect 35% i havent verified how far mine still go but my drake now has more dps. not less so check ur facts before try and burn ccp to the ground..




This, while i would have used other words : )

I think a lot of issues (which many state as being their "game play") got fixed with this patch.

If this patch reduces the amount of ISK being made afk it is a good one already, almost regardless of how the rest goes. : )

Beside that it made the game a bit more hard core which is basically what keeps me playing since many years.
Tyberius Franklin
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#372 - 2012-12-05 01:31:07 UTC
Vaerah Vahrokha wrote:
Tara Tyrael wrote:


And CPP, remove the new sounds. They are terrible. Whats next, ship models done in MS Paint?


The new Mega has already been done in MS Paint. Lol

Ok, now that's just slander at this point. The new Megathron hull is awesome. Your negativity cannot taint its glory.
Ranger 1
Ranger Corp
Vae. Victis.
#373 - 2012-12-05 01:32:55 UTC
Tyberius Franklin wrote:
Vaerah Vahrokha wrote:
Tara Tyrael wrote:


And CPP, remove the new sounds. They are terrible. Whats next, ship models done in MS Paint?


The new Mega has already been done in MS Paint. Lol

Ok, now that's just slander at this point. The new Megathron hull is awesome. Your negativity cannot taint its glory.

Fully agreed. It looks outstanding.

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Kitty Bear
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#374 - 2012-12-05 01:33:13 UTC
GiveMeATry wrote:

.. get noobs to fly smaller ships for you in a fleet..


doesnt work that well

a Level 4 mission Frigate is not the same beastie as a Level 1 mission Frigate




therefore noob is more likely to die in 1 volley, before you even have chance to apply remote rep effect
Kairos Antilles
Doomheim
#375 - 2012-12-05 01:36:01 UTC
Nene Ryuseika wrote:
Looks like salvage drones will only go off and salvage by themselves if you are the one who made the wreaks.

For anyone else trying to use salvage drones on friendly wreaks its target and engage one at a time. - so more effort than just a salvager.

I'de really like to know if this is bug or proper function?

I would like to know if Its going to stay this way I might as well stop training the skill and dump em drones.




Also the lack of corp hangers on the carrier has just made a total mess of fittings, ammo fuel and loot. :S

And containers don't help - other people can't access them.







This is terribad. The auto-salvage function should only be bypassed for yellow wrecks - else they are useless on an alt Noctis (which would beg the question "Why the drone bay?").
Tara Tyrael
Quantum Anomaly Corporation
#376 - 2012-12-05 01:36:26 UTC
Kitty Bear wrote:
GiveMeATry wrote:

.. get noobs to fly smaller ships for you in a fleet..


doesnt work that well

a Level 4 mission Frigate is not the same beastie as a Level 1 mission Frigate




therefore noob is more likely to die in 1 volley, before you even have chance to apply remote rep effect


Nah, he would die in real life from the damn Bzzz noise for shooting every 2-3 seconds...
ValentineMichael Smith
Farnham's Freehold
#377 - 2012-12-05 01:37:06 UTC
I was trying to use a weapon that doesn't require targeting, you know, the area of effect thing that doesn't use ammo. (Can't think what it's called at the moment, too tired) and the game would not let me turn it on unless I completely turned off the new safety feature. This makes no sense since I was attacking rats.

Secondly, in a different ship with regular turrets, I tried to target Rats and and I could not. Got a message that the rat was "Indestructible". I could only target them after they targeted me first. I hope these effects aren't intended and are fixed.

Not thrilled that I had to unfit a salvaging unit due to a ship losing a slot either. wtf?
GeeBee
Backwater Redux
Tactical Narcotics Team
#378 - 2012-12-05 01:37:23 UTC
I disagree with the sensor compensation skills. If the intended purpose is making ECM less effective then simply buff the sensor strength of all ships by 20%, adding these 4 skills to the game just adds more junk skills for everyone to train, and will simply end up hurting lower SP characters more in the long run.

Also **** off you wankers for locking other threads and referring everything to this thread.

Original Post was locked in 3min Censorship and misdirection at its best.
Korinne
The Partisan Brigade
#379 - 2012-12-05 01:42:02 UTC
It was said that with the addition of the Sensor Comp. skills, that ECM str would also be tweaked accordingly, but it doesn't appear as if it has. In which case, these skills are op, since one ECCM already makes you fearless to any single Falcon; so it equates to an ECM nerf.

Also, the longer this patch is out, the more I hate it. These red halo's obscure the battlefield when I zoom out. The circles are hard to read. This goddamned squealing noise? The **** is that ****? I haven't hated a patch this much since they changed sov. Please please please please impliment an option to turn this garbage off.
Vaerah Vahrokha
Vahrokh Consulting
#380 - 2012-12-05 01:42:20 UTC
Tinu Moorhsum wrote:
Well..... I've done a little testing and the patch was a ninja nerf to ratting. The dev blogs seemed to suggest that big rats would aggro big ships and smaller rats would aggro smaller ships but that doesn't happen. My ratting gear consists of a megathron and a loki and the loki used to take all the aggro and now takes none. The up side is that you don't need to recall drones between waves but the down side is that the megathron takes nearly all the aggro, which it doesn't tank as well as the loki.

The immediate effect is that my ratting income is abruptly 30% lower even after tweaking ships. I may be able to get that down to 20% but not without investing a small fortune in ratting gear. The megathron/loki combination is now no better than using 2x tengu, which sucks compared to how it was performing before the patch.

That said, I'm still making 90mil per hour ratting before looting so it's not *bad* just worse than it was.

T-


Didn't you get the memo?

Last patch it was: "BUY MACKINAW! (or die)".

This one is: "BUY TENGU (or DIE!)".

We can now remove all the other ships, we got our FOTM.

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