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Hmmm huge typo or actually not deploying faulty AI and leaving Anomalies and complexes till new one is created?

" NPCs

Sleeper AI has been added to mission and belt NPCs."

http://community.eveonline.com/updates/patchnotes.asp

Or just giving CCP too much credit? I'd assume whoever wrote the patch notes didn't know what they were talking about... it's the easiest assumption.

They've said they're deploying the code, broken, and that they're okay with not fixing things until sometime after it goes live. I can't imagine they'd recant that decision... The CCP Dev's are rather famous for doubling down on bad decisions.



Probably because it's the most popular MMO out there, so as a comparison you'll reach the widest audience.

Well it would fix the afk mission runners, and it would not turn 0.0 anomaly ratting into an ISK fountain.
So I hope it is a temporary fix to the problem untill the "real" AI is ready..
I am sure that there is room for reconsideration and solving problems in a sensible way at CCP..

If the patchnotes are accurate it would be the best solution to the problem, that I can think of anyway..

Remind me... what was the problem again?

AFK player's make fairly horrible income / hour. You park an AFK Domi or Rattler inside a room, and come back half an hour later to find a cleared room and if the mission takes place in a single room, something akin to 5-8mil ISK. Last I checked you can make a TON more ISK at pretty much zero risk in high-sec mining.

Unless the problem is botting, in which case the new AI will do nothing to fix that...

I have no idea why this apparently is such a huge problem that it needs to be a offence you can get banned for, and that it needs a redesigned AI that will break the game for a lot of other playstyles.
I really can't give you any answer to that..
I completely agree with you, and the sig-based, Ewar hateing AI would only increase 0.0 ratters income significantly because they could more or less rat in safety guarded by the rats..

But apparently CCP feels that this is a huge problem, and think for some reason this will solve it.
I can only applaud if they change to Sleeper AI and only apply it to missions and belt rats, because that means I can still put a small dent in the income of the 0.0 players that primarily get their income from anomalies..

Good enough?

The issue was that people were doing this in places which continued to spawn NPC's. From the reports and related talk this could apparently be done for several hours potentially.

That may be the case, I was never involved so never really tracked it beyond initial curiosity. Though there seems to be some prevailing idea that this change is a part of that effort. Not sure if that is the case or, considering the fit used in the exploit, if this change would have any positive affect.

I was simply trying to address the idea that going AFK for single non-respawning mission rooms was the issue which caused the exploit declaration.

But what if there wouldnt be any places where rats spawn continously.. Just a tought...

Nop, something different as far as I am aware.

And it has been fixed a while ago.
And also bannable.
Also FW was fixed elsewhere, so this changed isn't necessary for that as well.

The only thing it's necesary for, is to cut into the hisec iskmaking of multiboxers, make it a LOT harder to run L4 fleets with newbros, to be able to claim that CCPs dream of coming closer to have no PvP or PvE fits (which would be sortof viable for L5, that you do in logis, if buffers weren't that OP in PvP...), and to make missions less boring by... making them more hassle with having to constantly look after your hobgoblin/warrior IIs that are hunting down scrambling frigs.

CHAAAANGE! The antithesis of many online gamers.
No matter what it is, we will hate it.
(Well, I'd like it, IF the sites getting the new AI would be reworked to accomodate for it, or if my isk/hour would improve in another way and not decrease, or if it was new sites that get this AI, but no, CCP just rolls out an elephant in the porcelain store)



Anyways, this topic has served it's purpose, now the changes are pretty much LIVE.
And thus not a test server feedback.

Yesterday I have done one of these 10/10 blood raiders plex...It wasnt easiest but I could manage while triple boxing this. Then I suddenly remembered these upcoming changes and got stunned just thinking about how hard it's gonna be. I had to start laught when I read part with more challenging.

For those who haven't done this...2rooms are pretty easy having only about 20Ships in each. However, last room contains around 20bs's+neuts, 25smaller assorted ships, like 8 stasis towers and additional 10batteries. Muninn I used Tanked almost 4k dps and it that was barely enough, it's cap was empty within few seconds of arrival and velocity was at like 0,5m/s.

There are no spawns so this room was clearly designed to force pilots bring ship that can tank huge incoming DPS. After these changes none of your ships will be safe so what should I bring? 3rr domies with energy transfers and remote reps...hmm that could work. Oh wait there will be gazillion of smaller ships raping my drones right after arrival not to mention torpedo fired by station and neuting from at least dozen Bs's. Well you better have tought tank on those domies. If retracting some of changes isnt option I would at least consider looking at complexes and lvl5 missions and adjusting them to changes.

I do not play this game for shooting some rats but for PVP, however, everybody needs to make some isk from time to time and when I'm doing this I am not looking for something fricking challenging from NPCs.It shouldn't be easy but not impossibrrruuu either. If you want challange there are real enemies who can offer you better challange than any NPC.
Bliss

P.S. I stopped reading at p.10 so there may have been something similliar said already. More points of view better I guess.