Jita Park Speakers Corner

Tell us how people blatantly ignoring information which is IN THEIR FACE FOR WEEKS every time they log in, and don't research it if they don't know what it is ... are being "left out", and why that's our problem.

Why do you want people who are so indifferent to the process participating in it? What good result do you expect?

I'm not from the United states so the Chuck Norris thing is kind of bleh.
The spash screen as you call it really had nothing in it to inform players what the CSM was, Just vote for the CSM, the banners were kind of the same with references to irrelevant crap. As to the forums they are part of the game to those of us used to that idea but alot of people would consider them external to the game.

As to the rest the occasional for example quarterly CSM mail would be a good start, so would a blurb on the CSM as well as an abstain and vote button with it. Even mandatory participation in the electon process would not be a bad thing as it would mean players are giving up a minute of game time over an entire year to learn about what the CSM is and if they still do not care they just click abstain and go about there business for another 12 months.

The fact that 1/3 of 1% of the population can get someone on to our players representatives council is obscene.

If people can look at the words "Council of Stellar Management" and "your vote is important" and still be too apathetic to figure out what the CSM is and what it means to the player base, what makes you think they'll devote more than two brain cells to picking a candidate that agrees with whatever positions (likely none) they hold about EVE?

I mean, seriously, there's only so much CCP can do, but what we don't want to do is emphasize voting for its own sake at the expense of thoughtful voting.

an all-high sec CSM would be near the top of the list of THE WORST THINGS HUMANLY POSSIBLE

somewhere between the zombie apocalypse and being roseanne barr's personal butthair shaver

Clearly those people would not seek out, nor pay any attention to, information regarding the CSM in the first place. Since they deem it to only be "A game" they would have no interest in such things, so why are they all of a sudden so important to you?



Dear oh dear, you really are struggling with this crutch of yours. SiSi is not, and has not ever been covered by your subscription fee. It is a privilege in every sense of the word and access to it will never be guaranteed in any way shape or form. If SiSi goes down for whatever reason CCP have always stated exactly as I have just done. It is NOT a right.

Now compare that to the forums and TQ. If service to either of those is interrupted CCP take immediate steps to ensure its swift reactivation, as that is what your subscription fee allows you access to. Did I make that clear enough for you? Insisting that people who do not frequent SiSi are the same as those who choose not to use the forums is an asinine and weak argument, one that you had lost before the thought entered your head.



People who make a conscious choice to not access the services covered by their subscription have clearly already decided on the level of participation they wish to have in the game. It is they who distinguish themselves, purposely, from the rest of the player base. My highlighting this readily apparent fact only aggravates you because I think you realise the futility of your argument.



As I and many others have made abundantly clear, the information is readily available to those who choose to seek it out. It is not as if details concerning the CSM are kept locked in a safe buried under a mountain on an asteroid on the outer edges of the solar system. You are complaining about "educating" a proportion of the player base who have already decided that they wish to have no dealings in such matters.

No one here is saying that it wouldn't be nice if more people voted in the elections, of course that would be good, but to insist that CCP are somehow at fault and that they could "do more" is laughable at best, not to mention insulting to those who have clearly decided upon the level at which they wish to interact with the community.

Do you see yourself as a missionary of some sort, bringing the gospel of the CSM to the unwashed tribesmen?

What else is Issler "Frying Doom" Danze supposed to do? She got utterly creamed in the CSM voting, made an absolute ass of herself over Mittan's behaviour at fanfest and spectacularly failed to deliver on promises to tear down walls, bend CCP to her will and ensure cupcakes for everyone as per all the election blurb. Now she's mostly posting on her alt so that we think it's someone else and, I suspect, writing her own version of Mein Kampf, detailing how the evil goons stopped her being the CSM chair and weilding the power to make everyone in nullsec run level 4 missions all day. Come the next CSM election, this garbage will no doubt be spewed forth in a desperate attempt to gain a new personal best of 3 votes.

Obviously, the answer is to come to the forum and cry foul because none of the people who knew what the CSM elections were about were carebears. Or, perhaps, they were carebears but they'd trained getting a clue V and voted for someone else.

Oh, and I lied about the cupcakes.

Perhaps I'm too new/too oblivious, but I actually don't know anything about her.

I have pretty much answered this but it is rather simple once a year force up a blurb with 2 big buttons abstain and vote if they abstain, well they abstained with at least the knowledge of what they abstained about. so about 1 minute interruption once a year at voting time.

As to helping them selves, I have seen people in this thread who do not have a clue what the CSM is and that is in this thread.

Do you, seriously, assume that a large majority of people will look for anything other than the button which'll get them into the game the quickest?