Warfare & Tactics

Just so we're all clear, people understand why wardecs are pointless to a nullsec corporation, right? Because we live in spaces where we are "wardecced" in a way towards anyone who enters our space?

The only people who care is anyone in our highsec war squad, and right now our biggest problem has been finding good fights. Like... If you want to attack us, you can. For free. Right now.

I would agree with this statement.

Yet I would also agree that with all the Goon posting going on in this thread , clearly the idea of a huge war dec has caused many goon members excessive stress in their lives.... The crying here is a virtual cornucopia!

They aren't invincible, per se, just annoying to deal with in station games - the same as NPC 0.0, really, except those logi can't be undocked and pre locked on their targets. You either neut them out, jam them off, or just lay DPS on them after they've repped your primary, same as 0.0.

Well, except that undocking faction BS in 0.0 and aggressing them will probably tempt people into dropping caps on you. But the same principles apply.

EDIT: I'm basically just stating that the 0.0 policy of assuming all neutrals are alts of hostiles is one that carries over fine to empire, provided your overview is set up right and you don't get yourself Concorded.

Yes you see we are so scared of he possibility that anyone who wants to shoot us will be able to shoot us that we actively live in a region where anyone can shoot us.

Well heh, they declared war - started losing 10b to 1b and now need the wardec changes to get them out of the mess. There will obviously be some tears and footstamping and the forum trolling squad will try to cover the embarrassment.

ganked? by wardecs? while flying with a gsf ticker? how on earth did this happen?

This post is a lie and pure conjecture. We liked the wardec system the way it was. It let us declare our multiple wars and fight everyone in empire. These changes actually hurt us.

We don't care about metrics, we don't care about losses, we don't care about the isk war, we don't care about K/D. We do care about people crying on the forums like you were doing so loudly.

Jade I would take this more seriously if I actually saw you participating in the war instead of hiding behind a sea of allies and screaming victory. We could careless about the war targets that join you, it just means that we have more people to shoot, but when you sit there and declare you are winning, is simply an insult to those on your side that are actually participating.

I got to admit, the whole "goon conspiracy" assertion is pretty thin, even for you, Jade. You broadly spoke of how you were "testing" the new wardec system and actively taking advantage of it and then act surprised when CC patched it. A fact, I might add, they said was planned even before it launched, before you even made this thread, before the Goons wardecced you.

So, explain to me again how this is a Goon plot and CCP is placating to the Goons? It just doesn't add up. I mean, if you start your argument from the beginning at "Well, CCP does everything to placate the Goons" then I'm sure connecting the dots for you in pretty easy. But for a broader base of EVE players, this stretch of the facts is somewhat illogical.

But the best part has to be the fact that you contradict yourself. Burn Jita was about Goons going loco on the Highsec population, killing without pause and taking what they wanted. Now, you've given them a free means to have a large portion of highsec available for killing. Sure, the isk efficiency was in your favor, but that's hardly a reason to assume they instantly wanted their war ended. Putting carebear or freighter ganks aside, you think Goons were behind on the isk war? Or that they even cared. Honestly, if they were looking for a way to turn Highsec into their new stomping grounds, you certainly helped them achieved that goal. Why would they then turn to CCP to change this?

Also, your war is four-five days old and Honda Accords haven't been at war with Goons for more than a month or so? Aren't you being a little arrogant to assume that CCP has announced a new patch, honestly, a lot of work on their part entailing weeks of hard work of multiple people, in response to a five-day or month-old wardec? You honestly believe CCP reacted that fast? Do you know CCP and their famed reaction time? Are you daft? That makes zero sense, to think that CCP announced a new patch because of Honda Accords or your war, for that matter, is just so mind baffling it leaves me laughing. You realize Goon freighters in highsec have been getting popped for years, right? You realize Goons laugh at those same Goons who are moronic enough to fly a freighter into highsec, right? Where's the logic? Where's the connection? This is same old, same old for them...

Honestly, these stretches of the imagination and blatant arrogance are really disappointing. Not only that, but the attacks on CCP as placating Goon leadership over some moronic wardecs is seriously disappointing and really a low-blow on your part to salvage a situation in which you look like a whiny kid...

HTFU

Meh, I say pack up your gear and go into Deklein personally... Jade, I'm sure you're aware of the Day of Darkness video, how about a reenactment? March on over there!