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Great to see a reasonably fast and positive response from CCP. For all the bitching yesterday I feel encouraged by these statements.

To note on one point made in the dev blog:

- "When you use a shortcut to open a specific bay, it will open in “separated” mode, with the tree view compact so you can quickly get the view you want."

Assuming that the re-opened view will open where it was before, i.e. my 'cargo hold view' will be where I last opened it by itself, items, ships etc.

If those windows that are open also remember their position upon logout,login then I think there'll be no issues at all for me.

To illustrate……this is the kind of problem that I think could be solved by being able to filter the inventory windows according to the type of container that is listed in them.

Say that I set all my normal windows to not show wrecks. When I come across one and try to open it, the UI will say “hey, I can't open this inventory anywhere” and pop up a new window, where the wreck is selected. I can then (as now) spam that “loot all” button, with the next available wreck constantly being selected until I run out of wrecks. I can then set this window to only show wrecks, so when I've looted them all, the window realises that, “hey, I have no more things to show” and closes itself.


…and of course, while I was writing that… Very nice. It's a tricky nut to crack, I'd imagine, but this kind of customisation of the tree view (and what appears in general in any inventory window) would definitely be a new killer feature for the… ehrm… ”more demanding” among us.

As I just said on twitter, this is nice and all, but shift-clicking still needs to die in a fire, ASAP. It is inefficient, compared to double-clicking. I can do one with a single hand, quickly. The other requires me to move my other hand away from whatever it was doing (cue bad jokes here) to find the shift key and hold it down.

Either allow us to determine whether to use shift-clicking or double-clicking as the "open separate container window" action, or change it back. And if you give us the option to choose, I suggest you slap some metrics-tracking into there - just to see how many people change it back. (As an aside, it is a damn good thing you removed the session change timer from changing ships. That particular change would have caused even -more- rage than is already present on the forums.)

Also, make the extra, useless-in-most-circumstances information optional. I don't want to see a wide chunk of the UI wasted with how much the ammo in my hold is worth. At all. Ever. It's useless information to me, it clutters the interface, so why must I be forced to have it wasting what little screen real estate I've got?

"Unified inventory in MY cargohold? It's more likely than you think" ..

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Will be liking the POS changes. Thanks.

Also, for future changes, here is a "story" for you:

When the user docks, all inventory windows are restored to the state (size, screen position, and category displayed) they had when the user last was in station. If this is not possible (category not available at a new location) the window will temporary default to "Item hangar".

When the user undocks, all inventory windows are restored to the state (size, screen position, and category displayed) they had when the user last was in space. If this is not possible (category not available with a new ship) the window will temporary default to "cargo hold".

Much better would be if these remembered window states were specific to each station and ship. So, for example, docking at a station where there is a corp hangar the game would remember that at that station 2 inventory windows were open last time I was there: Item hangar and corp hangar. At my mission station the game remembers I want my item hangar, my ammo can and my ship cargo bay open, and so on.

(You may wonder why I would want both a ship cargo bay and an ammo can open. Its so I can see how much of what I need to move and be able to do the move. I see I need 1000 antimatter; drag it over. 500 Thorium; drag it over... etc.)

Any plans to look at load times? Opening up my ship cargo takes far too long and I have a decent system. I assume this is part of the indexing for the filters? If so, maybe only turn that on when the filter options aren't hidden?

Thanks for looking into improvements.

Will check this out and post an update.

I suspect it's because the new system is more streamlined than the old one code-wise. A lot of CCP drive recently seems to have been to overhaul/rationalize their code - with the beneficial and forward-looking purpose of being more easily able to add and tweak stuff in the future.

But what they seem to have forgotten is that while that's a good idea, it's not a good idea to grossly alter the way lots of people do things in a functional sense. Tweaking a ship here and there, no problem - QQ is quite ignorable under those circumstances. Adapt and overcome.

But when you're talking about what is (as the Game of Drones devblog itself pointed out) one of the most-used-by-everybody systems in the game, such a ... cavalier ... attitude is unwise.

IOW, it might have been a good approach to look at what people were actually doing and to mimic that existing functionality with the newly-coded system out of the box, so that the transition was smoother for end users.

Still, it looks like CCP are taking the criticisms on board. But why didn't they take them on board when this stuff was on test?

This is actually a bug and it's being fixed :)