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I'm sorry, but I don't think CCP understands the seriousness of this problem. Our corp, and many corps in our alliance are totally inactive now. You can see the ratting and mining indexes dropping in all systems, since they are now empty.

One month is too long... We need a reversion to the old system immediately, with a potential re-implementation of the new system, only after it is tested on sisi and there is positive feedback from players.

Regards

That small part is one of the most vital parts of the game. No mission runner, industrialist, miner, inventor, or any other role i can think of can work without it. Rocket explosions, soundeffects, trails, ship skins are all nice side effects. The Inventory system is the back bone of the game. We had one that was working quite well, effective and fast. Now it is nothing of that - so yes, the game is - if not broken - at least seriuosly damaged.

Why is font size control such a more important issue than the UI? If you want to ***** that font size is an integral part of the game, then you need to resort your priorities.

Here is the real issue. It alters the way you play. CCP has catered to it's older player base for it's existence. Now they alter the way you play and you don't like it. Honestly, it's as it is with everything else. The MASSES aren't really bothered by it. It's the few loud ones that are causing the problems. While yes, it needs tweaked, they just made another improvement today. But if you stop whining for 5 minutes, be patient *a lost virtue in this day and age* and ACTUALLY GIVE IT A TRY. You'll find that there are many pluses to this new UI. If not, please be sure to contract me your stuff before you log off for good. HTFU, CCP shouldn't cave to the whiners.

hey Soundwave 0/
got an idea Idea for you here about the tree layout for the orca i tried to put i threw as a bug report for some reason and the bug hunters told me to put it on the fourms so her it is the pic is pretty self explanatory but if you ned any clarification just ask me
also i think all bays in the orca should have a different icon for each bay so they are not confused with cans (which the now are sharing the same icon with) this would be something similar to what you did with the pos!

so here is the pic

let me know what u think k thx

Dex

Part 1 of 2:

I have been patiently and continually filing bug reports and posting usablely outlined "Issues" and "Feedback" for 3 weeks, and I have now compiled a list of THANK YOUs ... and ... REMAINING/NEW ISSUES (as of Inferno 1.0.10):

THANK YOU FIRST TO ADDRESSING/FIXING THE FOLLOWING:

- MOVING "ALL-SELECTED" ITEMS: ** FIXED! Thank you!
- TOO LONG "TAB" NAMES: ** FIXED! Thank you!
- LAG: Trading/Job Delivering/Moving Massive Amounts/Stacking All/Selling Items: ** FIXED! Thank you! ...Though you do have several other new lag issues (see below)
- "MY FILTERS" ALWAYS OPEN: ** FIXED! Thank you!
- MORE TIME-CONSUMING: ** Well.... not quite there, but it's much better. ESPECIALLY "ISK Estimation" not causing noticable lag. Thank you. Please don't stop... (read onward)


...AND NOW THE NEW (AND STILL EXISTING) ISSUES (and UNADDRESSED FEEDBACK/FIXES):

- "Nothing Found" REMAINS IN ALL UI WINDOWS' CONTENT BACKGROUNDS AND TRADE WINDOW BACKGROUNDS (when any opened hangar, container, deliveries window, cargohold, etc): If an EMPTY Unified Inventory window of any kind is opened, anything you place into the window(s) remains with the "Nothing Found" words in the background of each window. I'm sensing a theme of this error as I write this...

(see screenshot)

- CHANGING CORP WALLET DIVISIONS: ...STILL takes 10+ seconds each time it is changed.

- INITIAL LOGGING IN TO GAME HAS MASSIVE "SPINNING WHEELS" LAG: It appears if there are several windows open (i.e., Station Inventory, Ship Cargohold, Corporate Hangar(s), Ship Inventory, Deliveries, for example) then it takes 15-45+ seconds for the game to load up all inventory (or lack of) in each remembered-window opened from previous logge din session... thus the appearance of the "spinning wheel of waiting"... Sometimes sufferably.

- "SPINNING WHEELS" ALSO OCCURS WHEN DOCKING INTO A NEW STATION (as above bug): This is especially noticable when docking with a new station that has another corporate office of own corp. THIS HAS BEEN MENTIONED BY MY OWN MINERS AS: A "HINDERENCE" to (what used to be) a quick "mine-dock-dump ore-undock" procedure. (This obviously has reduced mining by up to 75% if a corp member is continually docking with a corp-office-station. To "lessen" this lag, miners have reported that mining and docking-dumping-undocking at NON-CORP OCCUPIED stations help "lessen" this lag, but is ultimately cumbersome to massively haul final mined ore to a corporate-office station in the end.

- "SHIFT-CLICK" STILL DOES NOT OPEN ANY CONTAINERS IN ANY UNIFIED INVENTORY WINDOW: It's ridiculous for me to not use a shortcut that, though worked last week, doesn't now. NOW, I have to "expand" an existing window to see the "TREE"... and then adjust its width so that I can read all the "too far inset to the right" containers in hangars... then right click and select "Open in new window"... then compress the pointlessly narrow "tree exposure". Too many steps for something that could easily be solved simply by DOUBLE-CLICKING the container and have it open in a new window... or a new tab. **Unaddressed since my notation on June 3.

- LACK OF VISIBLE "ROW" DIVIDING LINES IN ALL "UNIFIED INVENTORY WINDOWS": Take a look at the market listings, or the listings of the Science & Industry wndows... ALL ITEMS HAVE VISIBLE ROW LINES. The Unified Inventory windows all lack those lines. Oh, sure, they're there... AT 10% OPACITY. ** Unaddressed since my notation May 24. HIGHLY needed!

(see screenshot)

...AND because your rows lack lines (when not using any icon-type listing), a person may need to use the mouse pointer to "highlight" and item and its contents... SADLY, when this happens, a window pops up and obstructs what I'm trying to see. This has been noted since May 24 verbatim as:

- "POP UP" INFORMATION IS UNNECESSARY AND BLOCKING MY VIEW: ** This is VERY annoying and unchanged since May 24. When hovering my mouse over an item in hangar, it sometimes is because I'm comparing the quantities of it to another item a few lines above it (especially since there are no visible dividing row lines in LIST mode). SADLY I CANNOT "SEE" anything in those spots (whether name or quantity, etc) being covered by by "estimated prices for both unit price and stack price... in the "compact line-by-line listing mode" (which I use because, well, as you may have seen, my screen has a lot of stuff to look at all at once), this is literally making my tasks more of a pain.

(see screenshot)

- EXISTING WINDOWS IN SPACE DO NOT CLOSE WHEN NOT PRESENT: Currently, secure/loot containers in space, POS containers/hangars/modules, Planetary Customs Office windows stay open, even when warping away from them. IN SOME INSTANCES, the existing open windows get "compressed"/"shoved" into the area of where one's own ship's cargohold UI window is.

- CORPORATE TAXATION IS NOT FUNCTIONING: Several members (for example) of my own corporation have noticed that JUST BEFORE AND AFTER Inferno was "released", certain members' mission rewards, bounties, etc (that appear as taxable ISK which is taken from corp member wallets and deposited into the corp's Master wallet) IS NO LONGER FUNCTIONING. [This has been reported with no response.]

- BRACKETS AND LOWERCASE "TAILED" LETTERS ARE TOO LOW - INTERFERING WITH CHAT WINDOW's TOP LINE VS. EXISTING BAS: The brackets and the tail lowercase letters "q,y,p,g,j" and brackets (i.e. "Local [36]"), all extend BELOW the line of the tabs and the current/"foremost" open chat window borderlines... [Bug Report #135869]

(see screenshot)

CLIENT: Windows XP Pro SP3

do a timewarp and go backwards.

Hasn't been a dev blog on the UI for some time. It's still broken, still roundly despised and still not an improvement on what we had before it.

Two of my corpies have just sold up their POS tower networks as they just can't deal with it anymore, will be interesting to see if this has a run on in regards to market prices. I would like very much to see what CCP has been up to in regards to the UI but I suspect they are mostly on holiday. Fair enough, it is summer up there but the 'frequent' patches promised from CCP seem to have ground to a halt.

I just dont understand how it can be difficult to enable market pricing on the UI as optional and why we can't have at least the semblance of the old UI returned. The rage on the forums in regard to this seems to have died down. I'm not sure if this is a good or a bad sign, unfortunately I suspect that this has pushed a lot of people towards the not care section.

CCP please respond.... up date to the UI? POS tower fixes? OPTIONAL pricing? Give me back my seperate ship / items hanger please.

Logged in to try and play this game again.

Saw CCP listened to nobody on the UI Issues.

Logged out.

GG CCP, still not listening.

your UI is still sh*t. Just you know, CCP.
Got a bit tired of posting about this, which however doesnt make that pile of cr*p UI any better.