Ships & Modules

brilliant, fatal acension will be contacting you shortly.

(p.s it's nothing to do with titans, it's the low cost, high dps and ability to track BS, basically a sc post patch)

As you all know AAA doesn't use titans or for that matter supers very much. We've found ways to counter enemy super blobs or in the very least make them ineffective. So here are my two cents on the titan nerf.

Tracking speed nerf is completely fine and was much needed, titans will still be able to hit bs fairly well however, especially if they are webbed, however hitting anything smaller will now be a major pain in the ass.

The scan res nerf is rather ridiculous. If you don't want titans locking subcaps, then simply implement a function where titans can't lock subcaps, that is really rather simple. As people know I like to throw my titan around and DD people who rep poses or aggro on stations. For that sort of warfare this is now completely useless. It will take 20+ seconds to lock a carrier with 3 sensor boosters. Stacking penalty makes it useless to fit any more than 3 really. So honestly any carebear who is not completely asleep at the wheel will be able to make it into the shields 10 times over in his carrier by the time he is even locked.

Another note is that a bs with mwd turned on has the same sig radius as a carrier, so honestly you can lock a bs just as fast if you want to. Lets actually look at some numbers here to further prove this nerf is fairly stupid.

Taking a titan with base scan res 5, putting in 3 federation navy sensor boosters (and yes i'd put officer if it actually mattered a damn).
Perfect skill bonus gives u 1.25 multiplier, fleet 1.1 and sebos further 4.34. Put all these together and you get 5.97...lets call it 6/
This means your scan res is 30.
It will take 17.7s to lock a carrier, approximately as long as it will take to lock a bs with mwd on. Going down one step further bc with mwd on (much more likely scenario) will have a sig radius of around 1400-2000 (assuming no bonuses). This puts the lock time between 19 and 21s. So loking at it the difference in lock time of a mwding bc and a carrier is at most 4 seconds. Putting sig radius a lot lower at 400 for non-mwd bc such as drake lock time goes up to only 30s.

So in essence a titan will be able to lock any ship that it can actually hit in between 17 and 30s. Granted this is much slower than before but at the end of the day it should be able to lock capitals SIGNIFICANTLY faster than subcaps and this nerf does not fix it in any shape way or form. All it does it make shield hugging carriers nearly immune to DD while bss and bcs on grid will still go pop...maybe not bcs so much, but bs still stand no chance against titans, they will be locked and hit rather will.

20s lock time...7s cycle time on guns, that means even with 3 locked targets any titan will have 3 bs perma-locked.

gg ccp...you didn't fix anything...you just made titans more useless against other caps as far as i'm concerned.

What beats a 1200 man fleet?

Within reason yes they will, but that wasn't what I asked, so while you're deflecting nicely, neither you nor weaselior answered the question.


What beats the current CFC 1000-1200 man fleet that has become your constant?


Its a pretty easy question to answer, all of your "everything has a counter" guys should literally be leaping off the page right now.

What beats a 1200 man fleet?

Within reason yes they will, but that wasn't what I asked, so while you're deflecting nicely, neither you nor weaselior answered the question.


What beats the current CFC 1000-1200 man fleet that has become your constant?


Its a pretty easy question to answer, all of your "everything has a counter" guys should literally be leaping off the page right now.

What beats a 1200 man fleet?

Hopefully they will start using another fleet to combat a fleet. Carriers are currently used quite heavily in regular plain old dust ups and will continue to be used so. I doubt most heavy hitting alliances consider carriers to be a huge deal anymore, they're so fragile they can be alpha'd like any battleship.

Well now you've just traded "who has the most X" for "who has the most Y".

You saying "Well they should bring a matching subcap fleet" is no different from them saying "Well they should bring a matching supercap fleet."

I agree with this nerf, but I think some tweaking to carriers and dreads might be necessary to make them more useful against subcaps in fleet battles. Just a thought.