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Incursions: CCP is too slow - now we will act

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Lithorn
State War Academy
Caldari State
#801 - 2012-02-21 13:16:32 UTC
Krissada wrote:
Before words ----
Yes, it's this thread again. No, it's not just empty words.
This was posted many days ago, but I decided to take it down to have some chats with a few selected people before finalizing everything.


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We have come to the conclusion that even though blackbird suicide ganking is a profitable and very fun activity it only limits the Incursion Bear activities by some degree.
If we are to end their reign once and for all which has lasted for almost a year it is time we do it now.

We would like to announce the creation of a wonderful and most generous channel named: "Grief the Bears" with the sole purpose of taking down all motherships in highsec as soon as they appear and end the incursion just like CCP intended....
We shall put an end to this inhuman farming and abuse of game mechanics. We have to put a gag to this ISK faucet and shake up those bears.
If they wanna do incursions they can go to lowsec or nullsec. Pirate

What do we require and why do we need you?


  • 30-40 bodies to effectively fight off the site and finish it.
  • Armor buffer fit battleships and a handful subbattleships.
  • T2 logistic ships.
  • Empty tear jars.

So join us at the channel ----> Grief the Bears
and let us finally put an end to all this.

Once all the highsec incursions are down they will not respawn for another 24+ hours. When that one will spawn it will only take the bears 4-5 hours to make the mothership appear and then we shall sweep in yet again and finish it.

Can you imagine highsec where the bears only get to incursion 15-20 hours for a whole week?
I can and it is filled with tears....


PS: Beware that extracting a sufficient amount of tears will result in merc wardecs hired by rich bears. I see this as a side bonus!

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Above is the simple plan. We cannot keep on waiting and whining to CCP. We are taking matters into our own hands with or without you.
If you want to join, feel free to. If you rather not that is fine too.
But if you want to whine and complain because we are stopping the ISK faucet then make sure you are crying into one of our jars.

Fly much reckless Twisted


This looks like blah blah blah blah Whine, why cant we pvp moar. This post has nothing to with game mechanics, everything to do with your tears over not enough ganking opportunities. TLDR: Empty words, stay in your comfy npc corp and cry more please.
Krissada
Dreddit
Test Alliance Please Ignore
#802 - 2012-02-21 18:01:59 UTC
People should really stop necroing this thread.
*rolls eyes*
DarthNefarius
Minmatar Heavy Industries
#803 - 2012-02-21 18:45:28 UTC  |  Edited by: DarthNefarius
Lieutenant Brooker wrote:
I really hope you can stick it to 'em. What happened to CCP's whole idea of null and low-sec being the most rewarding, as well as dangerous? It's not very balanced with high-sec incursions, is it? Hi-sec gaybears have already made too much ISK off of these, IMO.



lol luv those NULL sec gaybear tears http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=owzhYNcd4OM&feature=player_embedded
Keep up that crying about Incursions I got my Jar ready to catch more.
I like how you state your ideas as CCP's... rewarding is in the eyes of the beholder & as long as these delicious tears keep comming outa Null Sec eyes I'll be collecting
The waaah Hi Sec isn't making ISK like I want them too under my thumb threads tears don'ttaste salty at all LolTwisted
An' then Chicken@little.com, he come scramblin outta the    Terminal room screaming "The system's crashing! The system's    crashing!" -Uncle RAMus, 'Tales for Cyberpsychotic Children'
Ammzi
Dreddit
Test Alliance Please Ignore
#804 - 2012-02-21 21:37:49 UTC
DarthNefarius wrote:
Lieutenant Brooker wrote:
I really hope you can stick it to 'em. What happened to CCP's whole idea of null and low-sec being the most rewarding, as well as dangerous? It's not very balanced with high-sec incursions, is it? Hi-sec gaybears have already made too much ISK off of these, IMO.



lol luv those NULL sec gaybear tears http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=owzhYNcd4OM&feature=player_embedded
Keep up that crying about Incursions I got my Jar ready to catch more.
I like how you state your ideas as CCP's... rewarding is in the eyes of the beholder & as long as these delicious tears keep comming outa Null Sec eyes I'll be collecting
The waaah Hi Sec isn't making ISK like I want them too under my thumb threads tears don'ttaste salty at all LolTwisted


^this is how TDF (armor channel) FC's behave like.
No wonder TDF is crashing to the ground. Big smile

Oh, do you still ban people for being in the wrong incursion?
Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
#805 - 2012-02-21 22:30:11 UTC
Ammzi wrote:
DarthNefarius wrote:
Lieutenant Brooker wrote:
I really hope you can stick it to 'em. What happened to CCP's whole idea of null and low-sec being the most rewarding, as well as dangerous? It's not very balanced with high-sec incursions, is it? Hi-sec gaybears have already made too much ISK off of these, IMO.



lol luv those NULL sec gaybear tears http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=owzhYNcd4OM&feature=player_embedded
Keep up that crying about Incursions I got my Jar ready to catch more.
I like how you state your ideas as CCP's... rewarding is in the eyes of the beholder & as long as these delicious tears keep comming outa Null Sec eyes I'll be collecting
The waaah Hi Sec isn't making ISK like I want them too under my thumb threads tears don'ttaste salty at all LolTwisted


^this is how TDF (armor channel) FC's behave like.
No wonder TDF is crashing to the ground. Big smile

Oh, do you still ban people for being in the wrong incursion?



The only "right" incursion is the one where the mom goes down as soon as it appears. Cool

Equipment standing by in case it needs to happen again. o7

Bring back DEEEEP Space!
Phased Veldspar
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#806 - 2012-03-07 05:56:25 UTC
Nice. I like it.

Best way for CCP can take care of the High Sec Incursions would not be to remove them but simply apply some logic:
The longer an Incursion, the more damage done and the less ISK Concord can issue. Also, Concord should be paying for results: beating back the incursion fleet.

So: Incursions do not reward players with ISK until the Mothership is destroyed. The amount of ISK earned is diminished for each hour the mothership is left up (law of diminishing returns). End result: Incursion Farmers will have to kill the mothership quickly if they intent to receive any decent reward.

Since Low Sec isn't cared for as much by Concord, the law of diminishing returns is not as intense (less damage done that Concord has to fix). Null Sec would have little to no diminishing returns since loss to Concord is minimal, but Concord does not want Sansha to have a greater foothold.

Lol
Molette Nolm
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#807 - 2012-03-07 07:08:47 UTC
Tbh i like the idea very much. Simply because it dosent hurt the carebears as much as the pirate alts. If you run incursions and specially in those VG fleets you quickly over some smalltalk realize that this is the main income for many griefers. So grief the bears you say? I see your idea but call it grief the griefers for once. So +1 from me.
Slagarian D'Torquville
Doomheim
#808 - 2012-03-13 20:00:28 UTC  |  Edited by: Slagarian D'Torquville
You guys (Incursion stoppers) are griping and grieving, just to show off that you can; The way I understand incursions, They act as a tool for nuggets (I.E., non uberleet thekiller8 headkick wannabees) how to prep for a space war, at (relatively ) low risk.



So many buzzkillers, so little time.
FloppieTheBanjoClown
Arcana Imperii Ltd.
#809 - 2012-03-13 20:55:58 UTC
Phased Veldspar wrote:
Nice. I like it.

Best way for CCP can take care of the High Sec Incursions would not be to remove them but simply apply some logic:
The longer an Incursion, the more damage done and the less ISK Concord can issue. Also, Concord should be paying for results: beating back the incursion fleet.

So: Incursions do not reward players with ISK until the Mothership is destroyed. The amount of ISK earned is diminished for each hour the mothership is left up (law of diminishing returns). End result: Incursion Farmers will have to kill the mothership quickly if they intent to receive any decent reward.

Since Low Sec isn't cared for as much by Concord, the law of diminishing returns is not as intense (less damage done that Concord has to fix). Null Sec would have little to no diminishing returns since loss to Concord is minimal, but Concord does not want Sansha to have a greater foothold.

Lol

That's essentially what I proposed back in November. Concord doesn't approve of farming and reduces the payout on all incursions sites to 50% after a certain length of time. This makes it more profitable to end the incursion so a new one starts up.

Founding member of the Belligerent Undesirables movement.
Kiwi Momaki
Doomheim
#810 - 2012-03-13 21:51:51 UTC
rofl... Jealous bro? Lol
Slagarian D'Torquville
Doomheim
#811 - 2012-03-19 00:43:12 UTC  |  Edited by: Slagarian D'Torquville
Lyrrashae wrote:
Kill them.

With fire.




You first, Lyrrshae.





I honestly love you "1337" types, griping about things you do not like. wait until Your favorite things get the "nerfbat".
Don't go postal, like thekiller8 did when cordy failed to win an alliance war, due to incompetence.



EDIT : And if the "nerfbat" does hit you, and you gripe, whine, and cry, i will have rage tear jars and popcorn ready.


*end sarcasm mode*



Phased Veldspar wrote:
Nice. I like it.

Best way for CCP can take care of the High Sec Incursions would not be to remove them but simply apply some logic:
The longer an Incursion, the more damage done and the less ISK Concord can issue. Also, Concord should be paying for results: beating back the incursion fleet.

So: Incursions do not reward players with ISK until the Mothership is destroyed. The amount of ISK earned is diminished for each hour the mothership is left up (law of diminishing returns). End result: Incursion Farmers will have to kill the mothership quickly if they intent to receive any decent reward.

Since Low Sec isn't cared for as much by Concord, the law of diminishing returns is not as intense (less damage done that Concord has to fix). Null Sec would have little to no diminishing returns since loss to Concord is minimal, but Concord does not want Sansha to have a greater foothold.

Lol





this makes more sense than postal lady trying to stop "bears" from getting more money.


We need more phased veldspars with solutions, not grievers going postal.Attention
Hans Jagerblitzen
Ice Fire Warriors
#812 - 2012-03-19 16:20:37 UTC
Hey everyone! Just wanted to share about an awesome talk I had last night with Phattecia, who I'm assuming a few of you are familiar with. I didn't get much sleep, but it was worth it to make a new friend who shares my passion for teaching players, getting them involved in more challenging content in EVE, and preparing them for PvP.

I wanted to take a moment and share a bit about how cool it was that Phatt took the initiative to approach me, even at the last minute during the elections. His interest and drive in seeing Incursions improved impressed me and I appreciated the awesome learning opportunity. He hooked my up with a whole host of resources I'm excited to begin researching.

Anyways, if you're an incursion runner - dedicated or casual, stop on by my Jita park thread about the talk, you may be interested in what I have to say. Thanks for being patient with me as I catch up on what I've missed in this thread since the start of the busy campaign season, and start contributing more to the incursion conversation where I can.

CPM0 Chairman / CSM7 Vice Secretary
Jack Carrigan
Order of the Shadow
#813 - 2012-03-19 16:27:07 UTC
I will gladly lend my Astarte to boost to ensure that the Incursion-bears cease to profit, and **** up the market on EVERYTHING.

I am the One who exists in Shadow. I am the Devil your parents warned you about.

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