Crime & Punishment

I'm just a lowsec resident who finds the whole "inflation-gonna-ruin-everything" argument pretty hilarious. I've been playing for two years, and never seen significant price changes for the ships I fly on a regular basis, other than seasonal spikes or temporary market manipulations, but even those usually bounce back. The EvE market is far more resilient than most of us realize I think.

Those that front and pretend that this is about saving the economy are, as one poster called it, exuding "false altruism" to defend what is really just a tear collection drive, though I am amused that this time it actually doesn't even involve PvP.

Well this is exactly why we want them all to know we are coming and they can't do nothing about it.
Even if they try to do something it would just be so much more sweet when carebears have actually done a criminal act and lowered their security status.

For haven't we fulfilled one of the most epic goals in EVE? Turning carebears into aggressive and dangerous PVP'ers?
One way or another some would argue that suicide blackbird jamming is not real PvP. If we make carebears go against us it is one step closer to their salvation and them shedding their title as carebears.
Only then can I see myself as being victorious. This is why we are calling out public. We want you to fight us with everything you got, we want you to come out of your caves and roar at us. We want you to DO SOMETHING AND STOP CRYING.

This is why I continue to argue that highsec residents deserve a better set of gameplay tools to take security into their own hands. The bounty system is outdated and lackluster, non-transferrable killrights do nothing to foster a player-driven security economy, and the result is that those that get crucified for being "carebears" have no resources at their disposal to actually make high-security space safe themselves.

Despite all the tears about how privileged high sec residents are, the bottom line is the mechanics still favor the prankster. Ganking in highsec is (literally) child's play, as any 12-year old with a Brutix, a few million skillpoints, and an hour lesson from a Goon instructor can engage in this freely for as long as he wants, paid for by isk he didn't even have to work for. I'm not exaggerating here, this is what The Mittani has gloated about continuously since stepping into the public spotlight.

This whole "carebears don't want to play in the sandbox" whine is really rooted in the narrow-minded assumption that risk = ship death. Miners, manufacturers, and especially market traders often take large risks to achieve a profit, even if that risk is of a financial nature instead of physical harm. Players that enjoy that half of the game are told by those that enjoy shooting that they must regularly bend over and suffer from regular ship loss or else they don't belong in the game. This is horseshit.

I have no interest in having a guns-off, flag-yourself-for-PvP zone in the game. However, select areas of space where ganks are *possible* but still present a significant challenge to the aggressor, should be allowed to protect gameplay diversity. The problem is that unsolicited highsec aggression is NOT any genuine challenge today, because empire citizens lack the ability to defend themselves against long-term shenanigans like the ice interdiction. Its not their fault that CCP hasn't looked more at developing player-centric bounties, wardecs, CONCORD, crimewatch, etc. Highsec space should be an area where players can enjoy activities with a reduced chance of ship loss. But they should be able to make it difficult for the pranksters instead of being forced to rely on this crappy substitute in the form of NPC police.

As a lowsec resident and FW pilot who enjoys nothing more in the game than to log on, get some kills, lose some ships, and have a laugh, I get sick of hearing suicide attacks called "PvP" and that "gankage is what makes EvE a sandbox". Thats not why most players play EvE. There is loss that is fun (I have no bad feelings when I've gone up against a good enemy and lost) and there is loss that is tear-your-hair-out-frustrating. If we're going to clean up things like POS mechanics, UI, and other features of the game to eliminate setbacks and frustration, reducing childish pranks is as justified as any other fix that makes gameplay more fluid and fun.

All this thread needs now is Darius to post saying,not only was this a way to troll the bears but a way to troll the pvper's into carebearing

Vareah i don't know what price you guys debate but is about plex they always drop before summer (no one play the game ppl go out ) and start to rize again in september usualy if there is nice expension the price go up by few hundred millions.

you guys can search my posts as i usualy always buy GTC one year ahaid for the next year and trace the prices no need web site.

The current setup favors the random ganker. He can travel to a new area, lay waste to a bunch of noobs, than move on, knowing he probably won't see those victims again before the killrights expire, or that if he does he'll still have the upper hand in a fight.

I believe in a free-market security economy, where you can pay another player to utilize your killrights. No different than contract killing, really, but even that system in this game is also completely broken.

Why? Because bounties are only awarded for pod kills. In high and lowsec, with no bubbles, being able to catch the pod of any pilot who knows what they are doing is extremely situational. Any talented PvP pilot not operating in nullsec can get his pod out of a fight 100% of the time barring a mistake, or lag.

The result is that one of the most classic science fiction professions (alongside smuggling and piracy) - becomes functionally useless in the EvE universe. Bounty hunters patrolling highsec or lowsec looking to avenge the weak (for a paycheck, of course) face the most impossible and masochistic of challenges.

Even a simple change like awarding bounties for ship loss instead of pod loss would be light years ahead of where we are now in terms of elevating bounty hunting as a fun, profitable venture.

Players would absolutely use locator agents, stalk victims, set traps, and make hay if they could do this by catching ships. But most pilots in their right minds are not going to make a profession out of pod-catching other professional PvP'ers in the heart of empire space.

Hey you-Get out of my head and stop reading my private mails!



You are a moron. Just a typical moron though, not a superstar moron like ENDEVOR.

I understand that because we form up on weekends and kill all the moms in empire people like to think that we will always do it every time. I like that theres some guy who was telling BTL / TDF that his "blackbird fleet is the only reason we didnt come" yesterday.

You arent even good Bears, if you were good Bears, and had some guts and any brains-you would be out hunting for the new 4 Billion ISK Invuls that drop from plexes that take 20 minutes to finish. Brick members got 2 A-type and and some B,C types over the last days.

As it is, this is only a very minor side job for Bricks. We don't have to form to kill every Mom every time, and we wont. We'll come when we want, if we want. The coalition doesnt need me, doesnt need Brick, doesnt need Krissada. All the interdiction fleets need is some guys to make it happen.

Believe it or not carebears, it really isnt about you/your incursions etc. It doesnt mean that mean that much to me to mean that much to you. A single day goes by without us killng your farmville NPC's and suddenly you are on top of the world telling people "they cant get a fleet together" LOLS.

As it is, this is only a very minor side job for Bricks......

Believe it or not carebears, it really isnt about you/your incursions etc. It doesnt mean that mean that much to me to mean that much to you. A single day goes by without us killng your farmville NPC's and suddenly you are on top of the world telling people "they cant get a fleet together" LOLS.

Soon you will not be able to count on having an incursion available to you 23/7. We will be killing the rest of the MS all at one time in a few days if negotiations with the BLT and TDF leaders fall apart.

Soon you will not be able to count on having an incursion available to you on weekends. We will be killing the rest of the MS all at one time in a few days if negotiations with the BLT and TDF leaders fall apart.

CCP state that the economy has experienced 'steady' inflation of about 1% a month for the last year and a half. That predates the incursion expansion.

Taken on it's own all that indicates is that at some point in the past the economy shifted from deflation to inflation, and incursions were unrelated to that change.