EVE General Discussion

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Eve Online is a truly amazing game with limitless potential, hindered only by the audacity of the imagination and CCP's coding abilities, if that. The whole concept and feel of the game is amazing, and the quality of the experience astounding. I'm not exaggerating when I say this stuff is my Viagra. That being said; the game is plagued by so many ******* problems it makes my head spin into the fourth dimension; so many things with this game are wrong that it makes me want to self-harm with rusty nail files. I mean seriously, the number of major problems in this game can barely be counted on your fingers. This is going to sound like a broken record to anyone who has read more than a paragraph on this site, so if you care, read on:

1) Horrendous separation of playstyles and professions;
Mining and ratting for minerals, Missions/Incursions vs everything else for isk, and just in general the game has very poorly defined boundaries for PvP and PvE activities . May be seen as a good thing, but this is prevalent throughout the entire game universe, which makes it a chore and a bore when you play by yourself. You know, playing by yourself, in both senses of the word, is a wonderful experience, try it sometime instead of forming million-man armies at gates and fapping to how wonderful you are.

2) Many tasks are stupid, boring and repetitive;
Mining, ratting, mission-ing, scanning and managing planets. All of these can be done either AFK with minimal input or semi-AFK; the clear hallmarks of boring and poorly-designed mechanics. If you can make a sandwich while "doing" something in a game, the game is doing it wrong. Everything that counts as "PvE" should be heavily augmented, altered or otherwise replaced with superior, more interactive systems that aren't boring and repetitive.

3) Too many faucets, not enough sinks;
Bounties, missions and Incursions, amoung several other smaller things (whatever is gifted by Non-Player Characters) create ISK out of thin air, causing inflation of prices over time as the currency devalues. "Sinks", where money is deposited or otherwise lost with/to NPC's (Loyalty stores, for example) take money away from the sandbox and increase the value of ISK. The ratio of money coming from NPC's far outstrips the amount being given to them. End result? The massive devaluation of ISK that gives starting players a massive disadvantage and makes the payouts from activities small. There should be a fixed amount of ISK in the game, with it changing hands between PLAYERS ONLY.

4) The security status regions make no sense;
There are the three different security areas in the game, which makes no sense at the outset. Why are lowsec and Nullsec different? 1-0.1 should be Hisec, 0-(-1.0) should be Nullsec, Christ's sake. Why should people in lowsec be punished for murdering each other? That only serves to make parts of the game inaccessible to players with a certain playstyle (barring alt accounts) which is just as stupid as making miners incapable of entering Nullsec, wtf. As if that already stupid distinction wasn't dumb enough already, they made the security status static, which makes huge swathes of the Hisec world deserted wasteland and massive patches of Nullsec overpopulated and over-exploited. MAKE IT DYNAMIC

5) The game is top-heavy;
Because Eve has a skill training bar instead of Experience points, and because there are so many skills available (Not mentioning implants and remaps available to more veteran players), older players have a massive advantage over other, newer players right from the get-go. Now I'd never say you should be on equal footing at the start compared to someone who has years on you, but the gap is enormous, more than it needs to be. The lack of controls that allow newbs to fight newbs and otherwise match up against others of similar skill levels makes the whole shebang a ****** experience and is annoying to say the least.

6) ****** sovereignty mechanics;
Do I even need to explain? It's so awful in so many ways, if you can't figure out why, go play My Little Pony Online. Tie it to the amount of work a particular alliance does "stuff" there, or perhaps make it a PI building that can be relatively easily killed by Battleships and above, to prevent "Rushing" to stop sov holding. Just in general restrict one's territory to one's activity and membership, and not how much they pay. Also, current sovereignty mechanics prevent smaller corporations from obtaining systems, leaving the older fellows to carry the fight on, becoming stagnant as they become permanent fixtures in a region.

7) Horrible ship balance;
Half of the ships in the game are awful and useless, not mentioning their superfluity when compared to other ships. Most of the T1 frigates, cruisers and many "Specialized" T2 ships are neigh-useless outside a small niche, which makes the more general-purpose ships infinitely-better. Also, Titans being balanced? Pshaw, veterans DESERVE OP shipz!!!11eleven!!1 No but really super capital ships are disgustingly-bad and ruin the game for those who don't have them or aren't affiliated with them . Everyone else who opposes them without having their own are doomed no matter what they do if the enemies have any intelligence whatsoever.

8) Ships are flying submarines and space acts unrealistically
This one really bothers me. All of the ships aren't flying in space, they're flying in a medium that resembles space. Really, the laws of physics in the game are thrown right out the window in most cases when the devs didn't want to program/write an explanation. Not even going to mention that almost every star system is a single star, with generic planets that have no names. Even the deep wormholes are restrained in their accuracy.

BUT REMEMBER, Eve Online is still amazing despite this ! :D <3

tl;dr read it you cripple

Based on your other stupid threads I'm going to assume this is a bunch of worthless rambling from a clueless troll.

I just realised everyone who plays Eve Online is a cripple. I thought it was just me. Thanks for your enlightenment.

Or it can be condensed to:

EVE is old

The top heavy aspect is a result of Old EVE. The longer it lives the more SP you build, it's a natural course.

There was a time when alot of people could be roped in to a fight and that was when EVE worked. Now, try all you want, most players in EVE wont be roped or trolled in to a conflict now matter what you claim to be able to do. Even null sec "wars" are all Attack and evac 99% of the time. People can't be hoodwinked. It was a cardinal aspect of EVE. Its al about the not knowing. After 8 years, everyone knows.

On that note, I end it with a reality check. EVE was NEVER about risk vs reward. It is the only game out there that isn't. All games except EVE reward players. EVE never did. It punished you for ******* up. It was the original element of EVE that made it it's own game. The carrot or the stick. Other games, all of them use the carrot. EVE uses the stick. If you look at other MMO's you see that the carrot works more often. If you look at other MMO's you see it doesn't work for very long. Most MMO's can expect to be in the tank in 5 years. The carrot stops working. 8 years later, the stick is still being used in EVE and while few in numbers we who survived EVE now no longer fear it. We never grew to like it, we just can't be beaten with it anymore and still care.

1) It's a sandbox.

2) It's a sandbox.

3) It's a sandbox!

4) Those systems are owned by large NPC factions, but not policed.

5) The difference becomes a measly 5% so fast it doesn't matter. The primary difference between young and old players is how many things they can do, not how well they do them.

6) "activity and membership" and "how much they pay" are the same thing for an alliance. taxes and tech defense.

7) the biggest problem is supers, t1 ships are "bad" because they are so ridiculously ISK efficient that losing one is basically free. This fact alone makes them among the better ships in EVE.

8) Model a spaceship game based on newtonian mechanics in your head. Now imagine programming it and playing it. Now you know why EVE is a submarine simulator.

The removal of low sec the way you put it sounds awesome given then you disregard all of the current systems based on it =D

Name them, all of them, then tell me why they should remain in lowsec rather than merging it with Null.

Of course, that would be stupid if Sov wasn't changed, which I mentioned

Oh I wasn't against it, I'm just saying that on the surface is sounds like a great idea.

Implementation plans are where you take the existing lowsec mechanics into consideration.

I have no idea how that would work but it sounds like an idea worth looking into.

Increased Security around Gates and Stations and Consequences to your status.

I want it to got the other way. Equal Roads to Null Sec through both Lo and High making it a separate piece of Space entirely. Buff up the Penalties down their as well, make it everyone vs the Pirates who live their instead of everyone vs everyone. Pirate Space with Pirate specific PvE and opposition from a Navy that is not allowed to commit Piracy. Make it a terrible consequence for those that commit and act of Piracy and have plans to return to the Hi-Sec Womb. Make the Space about those who choose to take the dive and become a Pirate and if you are not a Pirate living their you are against them or will be a "Pirate" very soon if you activate that Warp Scrambler on a +Sec Ship.

Basically I think NPC Null should be Casual Space and Lo-Sec an Eco System designed around Piracy, the ones who avoid them / fight them and Faction Warfare.

Nothing wrong with beating dead horses. You keep ******* pounding away until you ******* get what you want.