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Does favoritism exist?

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Acac Sunflyier
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#1 - 2012-02-12 10:17:43 UTC
I was discussing the meaning of life with people in a channel somewhere when I had a sudden and life altering question about Eve. Does CCP show favoritism to some players more than others?

If CCP ever find out that somebody relevant to them, like Chribba for example, were to have violated the EULA in a bannable manner, do you think they'd burry it or let them off with a lesser punishment than they would say John Doe?

Take Mittens for example. He's the head of the CSM, runs Goonswarm, proclaims he's the most influential player, and all together makes a lot of noise in Eve. CCP has player accounts that are anonymously apart of the population, hire people from Eve, and is very active in the community. It stands to reason CCP has some kind of relation to Mittens. If mittens were to bot and raise the flags that CCP uses to track bots, do you think they'd go easier on him than anybody else? Perhaps let him off with a warning where they'd usually ban somebody? After all, he's on the CSM, leads an alliance, and does stuff.
Acac Sunflyier
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#2 - 2012-02-12 10:22:47 UTC  |  Edited by: Acac Sunflyier
I'd like to think CCP is unbiassed. But the fact is, CCP is run by people and not computers. And people become attached to others, get toilet paper stuck to their shoe, and have their sleeves get stuck on door knobs. So, it can happen. Just wondering if it does and if the community thinks it does.


Edit: What I'm trying to ask is if you and mittens were busted for doing eula violation a with no priors for both of you, would mittens get off with a warning when you would be banned?
Bumblefck
Kerensky Initiatives
#3 - 2012-02-12 10:30:39 UTC
Of course it exists.

Perfection is a dish best served like wasabi .

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Eternus8lux8lucis
Guardians of the Gate
RAZOR Alliance
#4 - 2012-02-12 11:27:19 UTC
Youd have to be an idiot to believe it doesnt happen ANY time people group together. So yes it has, is and will continue to happen for a lot of underlying psychological reasons.

Have you heard anything I've said?

You said it's all circling the drain, the whole universe. Right?

That's right.

Had to end sometime.

rodyas
Tie Fighters Inc
#5 - 2012-02-12 11:31:31 UTC
CCP bans people off and on. Usually they lift the ban unless its really extreme. Like most punishment cases Time can be part of the punishment and CCP uses that as well.

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ILikeMarkets
Royal Amarr Institute
Amarr Empire
#6 - 2012-02-12 11:31:48 UTC
Acac Sunflyier wrote:

Take Mittens for example. He's the head of the CSM, runs Goonswarm, proclaims he's the most influential player...


lol. Sure he is Pirate

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Rico Minali
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#7 - 2012-02-12 11:49:31 UTC
I am confuse, is this a legitimate question or a stealth attack on Mitani?

As far as Im aware, if you do a bannable offence you get banned. There have been influential peoepl banned previously, even if its not game making influence they wielded. There has always been talk of ccp favoritism, and there always will be.

I think the talk just depends on who the general public hate most at the time, they will get accused fo having ccp influence.

Trust me, I almost know what I'm doing.

Bumblefck
Kerensky Initiatives
#8 - 2012-02-12 11:56:10 UTC
Are you going on about the Xenuria is a paedo thread?

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2bhammered
Cyberpunk 2077
#9 - 2012-02-12 11:56:12 UTC
Rico Minali wrote:
I am confuse, is this a legitimate question or a stealth attack on Mitani?



It is a stealth attack.
DeMichael Crimson
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#10 - 2012-02-12 11:58:15 UTC
I highly doubt CCP would give a tough punishment on any CSM member caught for the first time.

Hell, CCP probably settle with a promise not to do it again.

Last thing CCP want's to do is have the CSM mad at them, especially since CCP is still busy placating the player base for last summer.
Tora Bushido
Commonwealth Mercenaries
BLACKFLAG.
#11 - 2012-02-12 12:11:00 UTC
In the end, its all about just one thing.......me.....euhhhh..... I mean $$$$$. Twisted

DELETE THE WEAK, ADAPT OR DIE !

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Vera Algaert
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#12 - 2012-02-12 13:11:45 UTC  |  Edited by: Vera Algaert
it is in any company's best interest to give preferential treatment to exceptionally well-known/influential customers

on the other hand (especially in gaming) no company wants this preferential treatment to get too much public coverage lest other customers feel disadvantaged.

for a somewhat recent example of the awkward dance this results in see this summary of the aftermath of Blizzard banning a very well-known WoW player.
of course they lifted the ban after a few days and of course this decision had nothing to do with the person on the receiving end, the publicity he had managed to generate around the whole event and his sponsor - Razer - intervening on his behalf but was based on a careful review of evidence.

edit: also ROL leader got his accounts banned for RMT not long ago iirc - so leading a large alliance does not make you automatically immune.
edit2: iirc Helicity strongly suggested on fhc that CCP unbanned him for reasons connected to hulkageddon

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Ptraci
3 R Corporation
#13 - 2012-02-12 13:17:25 UTC
Acac Sunflyier wrote:


If CCP ever find out that somebody relevant to them, like Chribba for example, were to have violated the EULA in a bannable manner, do you think they'd burry it or let them off with a lesser punishment than they would say John Doe?



There's another school of thought that says that Chribba would receive a harsher penalty since he is so "popular" and therefore easier to be made an example of than some John Doe that no one knows/cares about. Favoritism can work in different directions, but if it exists you can safely bet that the direction will always be in favor of the hidden agenda of the one using favoritism.
Patient 2428190
DEGRREE'Fo'FREE Internet Business School
#14 - 2012-02-12 13:20:24 UTC
They usually ban first, figure it out later.

In the case of an e-celeb, it usually works out against the company to ban him, because then the "victim" can parade around like some sort of holy martyr. In the case where they wouldn't ban an e-famous person over a regular Joe, I'd imagine it would have have more to do with avoiding neckbeard fallout than actual favoritism
rodyas
Tie Fighters Inc
#15 - 2012-02-12 13:23:12 UTC
Nah CCP doesnt show any favoritism, When T2BPOs dropped from their loot caravan they dropped for everyone.

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Tanya Powers
Doomheim
#16 - 2012-02-12 13:36:47 UTC
yes it's biased, CCP Punkturis hates me, therefore she loves you all and by doing this her feelings are biased towards me Cry

CCP Punkturis hear mehLol

Something Random
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#17 - 2012-02-12 13:53:07 UTC
Sure they do.

Im getting little love letters from them all the time. Some are quite kinky actually.

"caught on fire a little bit, just a little."

"Delinquents, check, weirdos, check, hippies, check, pillheads, check, freaks, check, potheads, check .....gangs all here!"

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Riley Moore
Sentinum Research
#18 - 2012-02-12 13:58:08 UTC
Of course it exists, CCP Soundwave knows that I know what he did two summers ago. I'm untouchable!

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Hainnz
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#19 - 2012-02-12 14:55:01 UTC
I know you're talking about EULA-breaking and not EVE-legal bad behavior, but I find myself getting upset at the idea that Chribba would do something underhanded. (His alts can do whatever, though and it wouldn't bother me.) :-)
Bumblefck
Kerensky Initiatives
#20 - 2012-02-12 15:20:38 UTC
Do you actually know for a fact that it was The Mittani that broadcasted that 'Xenuria is a Paedophile' slanderbait?

Perfection is a dish best served like wasabi .

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