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Mouse support for dust confirmed, hooray !!

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Karl Planck
Perkone
Caldari State
#41 - 2012-02-07 17:15:45 UTC
Valei Khurelem wrote:

Quote:
Get a grip already!


The only reason they're making Dust 514 is to make money out of gullible people like you when it's obvious just how easy it would be for CCP to make the game for the PC as well and release it as an expansion.


cry moar, your tears are the reason i have been coming here.

I has all the eve inactivity

fuer0n
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#42 - 2012-02-07 17:20:54 UTC
Ciar Meara wrote:
Grideris wrote:
ThisIsntMyMain wrote:
Yeah, that all sounds great but CCP have previously said the the Keyboard and Mouse will have full support for CORP CHAT CHANNELS. So I won't be holding my breath until either CCP says the Mouse can be used for aiming ( which this article does NOT say ) or we get our hands on a beta key.


No I can tell you, they're referring to aiming in the match. And I'm the one that wrote the article.


that the question I wanted answered. How sure are you about this, because it sounds awesome. Although just how I can play dust on a ps3 with a mouse in the living room is a question. I think this will need some DIY work


a new teflon coated baking tray does just fine. saves buying them fancy low friction footpads for your mouse too. Big smile
Famble
Three's a Crowd
#43 - 2012-02-07 17:23:58 UTC
Karl Planck wrote:
Valei Khurelem wrote:

Quote:
Get a grip already!


The only reason they're making Dust 514 is to make money out of gullible people like you when it's obvious just how easy it would be for CCP to make the game for the PC as well and release it as an expansion.


cry moar, your tears are the reason i have been coming here.


Delicious indeed.

Be happy it's not on PC. I love FPS shooters with a KB/M but once they're on the PC they become hacked immediately. You think you see a lot of anit-bot tears now? They pale when compared to "hacking" whines. Both in intensity and in frequency. It's a heck of a lot harder to modify the PS3 client to support wall hacks, auto aim's etc.

I have been skeptical about Dust thus far but intrigued. I had no intention of playing it without the KbM support but now that it's here I am pretty stoked.

If anyone ever looks at you and says,_ "Hold my beer, watch this,"_  you're probably going to want to pay attention.

Dbars Grinding
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#44 - 2012-02-07 17:35:18 UTC
Patient 2428190 wrote:
Just what a competitive FPS needs, two wildly different control mechanics playing the same game.

Absolute idiocy at its finest.




What?? You make no sense. Lets have a look at how stupid that comment was. MLG use to have Tekken fighting game where people used controllers OR a joy stick. MLG also has sc2 tournaments where every mouse and keyboard is different and set up to the players liking.

I have more space likes than you. 

Corina Jarr
en Welle Shipping Inc.
#45 - 2012-02-07 17:41:17 UTC
The Original Alt wrote:
Grideris wrote:
The Original Alt wrote:
Degren wrote:
Rek Seven wrote:
Personally i prefer using a controller/game-pad for shooters... I wonder if one method will offer an advantage.


In every iteration of FPSs attempting to pit PC against console gamers, the PC gamers roflstomped the console gamers due to the advantages of the mouse/keyboard.


Such a bold statement like this sure could use some links to all those iterations they have done it. Do you have any credible sources?


I can do that. Well, not quite as most people think.

http://www.dust514base.com/2012/02/what-is-mightier-mouse-or-controller.html

http://www.joystiq.com/2007/02/23/shadowrun-keyboard-versus-controller-in-the-final-battle/

And for the original "source" of Microsoft's trial between Xbox 360 and PC gamers, this looks to be it. Take it as you will.

http://www.rahulsood.com/2010/07/console-gamers-get-killed-against-pc.html


So the first link is just someone talking about the other two links. Second link is one where gamepad was the clear winner and the final one is one guy talking about him hearing it from another guy that the mouse+keyboard was the clear winner. Fascinating. You made it sound like you had dozens of examples, yet you have only two. And those are hardly anything to wave around as facts.

Seems you can't read.

The second one describes the controller as being as good as the KBaM, and only because of a simpler interface.

And the last one refers to several tests done by Microsoft which showed than without aim assists and other toys, controllers couldn't keep up with KBaM responsiveness.
fuer0n
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#46 - 2012-02-07 18:24:44 UTC
CCP Phantom
C C P
C C P Alliance
#47 - 2012-02-07 18:28:02 UTC
Moved from General Discussion.

CCP Phantom - Senior Community Developer

2bhammered
Cyberpunk 2077
#48 - 2012-02-07 19:05:56 UTC
Adding mouse support is a huge mistake...Lol oh boy, CCP, if you make a shooter for a console that uses a controller you have to design the game for a controller.


Now you want to design it with a mouse in mind? Great, so you gimp the majority of your consumer base,

hmm MW3=best most slick working console shooter made with controller in mind or

DUST=some mmo shooter with microtransactions?- that plays with eve and I need a mouse to aim good infront of my tv on my coffee table with a keyboard?Roll

Or are you saying mouse will be worse for DUST? Making it stupid to add anyway!

bah, whatever, love your concept but your game will fail horribly, Microsoft made a game I loved with cross platform where PC players had mouse and keyboard and we had controllers, guess what? game failed with thousands of people ranting about it making the game unfair.

Try not to take EvE Online with it when it sinks thank you.
AlleyKat
The Unwanted.
#49 - 2012-02-07 19:38:21 UTC
'kay, getting lost here...someone set me straight.

It will be compatible with a keyboard and mouse?

And that to compensate people using the PS3 controller to play an FPS game, they are going to nerf the keyboard and mouse and/or buff the PS3 controller?

Auto aiming? srsly? with a game that has MT in it? srsly?

CCP, I thought we had an agreement on releasing information to your customers in a clear and concise manner.

How's this going to look around the playground when kids are comparing notes on upcoming online shooters? None of them are going to know which side to pick without fear of getting ridiculed for the remainder of their childhood....

Unless that is your plan, so in the future they will join EVE because their social life took a downturn and they come to you for another type of existence.

I blame goons.

/raises finger.

This space for rent.

Herping yourDerp
Tribal Liberation Force
Minmatar Republic
#50 - 2012-02-07 20:43:58 UTC
will lol when i win with controller in hand. despite the advantages of mouse and keyboard.
Lithalnas
Dirt 'n' Glitter
Local Is Primary
#51 - 2012-02-07 21:14:55 UTC
So you get a game for free but its best played with a keyboard and mouse that cost $50 - $100

what am i missing here?

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Jhagiti Tyran
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#52 - 2012-02-07 21:26:58 UTC
Lithalnas wrote:
So you get a game for free but its best played with a keyboard and mouse that cost $50 - $100

what am i missing here?



Well Sony are working with CCP, it wouldn't surprise me if the only mouse that works is a very expensive proprietary one (jk).
Adunh Slavy
#53 - 2012-02-07 23:32:23 UTC
KB and mouse, really? Will it have PC like mouse yaw and pitch speeds? Might be tempted in that case.

Necessity is the plea for every infringement of human freedom. It is the argument of tyrants; it is the creed of slaves.  - William Pitt

Grideris
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#54 - 2012-02-08 04:49:09 UTC  |  Edited by: Grideris
Jhagiti Tyran wrote:
Lithalnas wrote:
So you get a game for free but its best played with a keyboard and mouse that cost $50 - $100

what am i missing here?



Well Sony are working with CCP, it wouldn't surprise me if the only mouse that works is a very expensive proprietary one (jk).


Currently the PS3 already works with nearly any USB or Bluetooth Keyboard and mouse. Though not all games support, the browser, any standardised text inputs and some of the console's main menus do.

EDIT: Oh wait., I just saw the "(jk)". Been beating down too many trolls lately >_<

http://www.dust514.org - the unofficial forum for everything DUST 514 http://www.dust514base.com -** the** blog site with everything else DUST 514 you need

Gilbaron
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#55 - 2012-02-08 07:55:49 UTC
Grideris, if you want your site to be taken seriously you should deliver more than just "CCP informed me"

either the whole interview text, a podcast or a quote from an official CCP channel
Grideris
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#56 - 2012-02-08 08:08:07 UTC
Gilbaron wrote:
Grideris, if you want your site to be taken seriously you should deliver more than just "CCP informed me"

either the whole interview text, a podcast or a quote from an official CCP channel


I think you should read it again. CCP Jian (The Executive producer on DUST 514) was kind enough to do so on twitter.

http://www.dust514.org - the unofficial forum for everything DUST 514 http://www.dust514base.com -** the** blog site with everything else DUST 514 you need

Degren
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#57 - 2012-02-08 13:37:40 UTC  |  Edited by: Degren
The Original Alt wrote:
Degren wrote:
Rek Seven wrote:
Personally i prefer using a controller/game-pad for shooters... I wonder if one method will offer an advantage.


In every iteration of FPSs attempting to pit PC against console gamers, the PC gamers roflstomped the console gamers due to the advantages of the mouse/keyboard.


Such a bold statement like this sure could use some links to all those iterations they have done it. Do you have any credible sources?


Is it bold or just common sense? Google it, I'm too lazy to defend an obvious argument.

Or you can just consider me a credible source.

Hello, hello again.

Grimpak
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#58 - 2012-02-08 14:24:24 UTC
having keyboard/mouse support would be a very bad thing(TM) if you needed to pony heaps of cash to buy each.


last time I checked you could buy a kboard and a basic mouse for half the price that a PS3 controller costs, if you don't want to re-use the ones you have attached to your pc rig, that is.








...unless you're playing in a laptop, in that case, well, screw you. better go shopping.

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TC wabbajack
SnM pain distribution network
#59 - 2012-02-08 19:53:06 UTC
tbh the tears when a Mouse and keyboard elitist is wtfpwn'd by a fluke shot buy a guy using a pew-pew gun will be awsome


Squidgey
Perkone
Caldari State
#60 - 2012-02-09 16:00:23 UTC
If this happens, no other FPS dev will have any excuse not to implement this.

And it might actually make dust not suck.

And as said, consoles are the IDEAL environment for a shooter - as long as you can use a M/K.
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