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Why didn't you vote at the last CSM?
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The Apostle
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#1 - 2012-02-03 07:44:07 UTC
A contentious point evident in many threads on the CSM and it's relevance.

I'm eager to identify whether people did not vote and if not, why not?

Nullsec democracy is an oxymoron. Bloc voting for alliance candidates is Democracy for Morons 101. Let them perish in their self-interest.

Bring back Eve. OUR Eve.
Karn Dulake
Doomheim
#2 - 2012-02-03 09:13:44 UTC
Because im having a blast playing this game and i did not even know it was happening.

Im happy with everything that effects me in game and im not emotionallly attached to it.


(Voice of the Silent majority)


ok im off to work. cya in 8-9 hours
I dont normally troll, but when i do i do it on General Discussion.
Akrasjel Lanate
Immemorial Coalescence Administration
Immemorial Coalescence
#3 - 2012-02-03 09:15:15 UTC
I voted Roll

CEO of Lanate Industries

Citizen of Solitude
Aineko Macx
#4 - 2012-02-03 09:19:21 UTC
I did vote. But having been at fanfest and talking to CSMs I'd vote differently today.

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Destination SkillQueue
Doomheim
#5 - 2012-02-03 09:24:57 UTC
Karn Dulake wrote:
Because it's just a game.

(Voice of the Silent majority)


ok im off to work. cya in 8-9 hours


FYP.
Ai Shun
#6 - 2012-02-03 09:34:24 UTC
The Apostle wrote:
A contentious point evident in many threads on the CSM and it's relevance.

I'm eager to identify whether people did not vote and if not, why not?


I had only been playing a very short while and did not feel I knew enough about EVE Online to vote for something that could change it. This time around I will vote.

I will caution you though, you are asking this question on the forum. It is a self selecting sample of players who are already more passionate about the game than most others. That said, you are also more likely to be trolled.

So don't base anything semi-serious on this forum thread. Fair warning Lol
Ciar Meara
PIE Inc.
Khimi Harar
#7 - 2012-02-03 09:58:27 UTC
Aineko Macx wrote:
I did vote. But having been at fanfest and talking to CSMs I'd vote differently today.


I also voted, what is it that you would have changed?

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Shazzam Vokanavom
Doomheim
#8 - 2012-02-03 10:07:01 UTC  |  Edited by: Shazzam Vokanavom
Apostle, if people are apathetic to forums I'm guessing they will be apathetic or indifferent to voting or even understand the current issues. Questionably you could say the same for those who do use the forums. Anyway, seems that you might be working against a conditional probablity of getting an accurate picture and therefore a reasonable understanding as a result.

Likewise the same with the current motivator posts in the CSM forums encouraging people to vote. You'd think they would understand that people interested in the CSM or the voting process might actually visit thoses forums and therefore the idea of getting them interested in EvE politics is pretty defunct at that stage.

However, some of the posting regarding the CSM if posted here is simply chucked into those forums by the moderators, so its kind of pointless or potentially self defeatest to try to encourage activity related to it I guess.
Karadion
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#9 - 2012-02-03 10:31:04 UTC
Why do you keep creating more threads?
Sicex
#10 - 2012-02-03 11:05:44 UTC
If you want a tangible incentive to encourage voting...

... Give everyone an "I Voted" sticker below their Likes count that stays year-round.
That would certainly validate some people's opinions, well those that felt voting is not important can have an appropriately smaller soapbox for their rants on the CSM in the future.
Shazzam Vokanavom
Doomheim
#11 - 2012-02-03 11:07:36 UTC
Karadion wrote:
Why do you keep creating more threads?


Please explain why you think he shouldn't. Then limp your scared ass back to your propoganda machine with the understanding that the goons suprisingly do not own the EvE General fourm.
Mirime Nolwe
Mantra of Pain
#12 - 2012-02-03 11:10:51 UTC
CSM turned into a Alliance lobby niche, it's useless and need to be reviewed.
Christine Peeveepeeski
Low Sec Concepts
#13 - 2012-02-03 11:14:19 UTC
I didn't because I didn't care enough at the time. This is a game.... if CCP can't make it work well enough with or without a CSM then I'll leave. I did not have the time to actually look at each person in the running THEN judge their viability of getting into office THEN vote for the one that most fitted my mindset and was likely to actually get enough votes that mine wouldn't be wasted.
Josef Djugashvilis
#14 - 2012-02-03 11:24:34 UTC
Aineko Macx wrote:
I did vote. But having been at fanfest and talking to CSMs I'd vote differently today.




Why?

This is not a signature.
Ursula LeGuinn
Perkone
Caldari State
#15 - 2012-02-03 11:27:36 UTC
Mirime Nolwe wrote:
CSM turned into a Alliance lobby niche, it's useless and need to be reviewed.


It's fine. Everyone who plays EVE is able to consider the candidates' platforms and cast their votes. The only "problem" is the fact that players with numerous accounts get more votes, but that sort of weighted voting is inevitable — for one thing, it would be impossible for CCP to sort out, since many players have two or more accounts; for another, players with more accounts arguably hold a larger stake in the game than do players with fewer.

Ultimately, these complaints about the CSM are really complaints about large, organized groups whose leaders make their pilots aware of political goings-on and encourage them to participate. There is no way to review, prevent, solve, nerf, or otherwise change that.

The effective counter is to organize your own large group of constituents united under a single banner.

"The EVE forums are intended to provide a warm, friendly atmosphere for the EVE community." — EVElopedia
Karadion
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#16 - 2012-02-03 11:43:13 UTC
Shazzam Vokanavom wrote:
Karadion wrote:
Why do you keep creating more threads?


Please explain why you think he shouldn't. Then limp your scared ass back to your propoganda machine with the understanding that the goons suprisingly do not own the EvE General fourm.

Can you point out to me this "propaganda machine" we have? I seem to have missed it back out the http://goonfleet.com forum.
Shazzam Vokanavom
Doomheim
#17 - 2012-02-03 11:56:46 UTC
Karadion wrote:
Shazzam Vokanavom wrote:
Karadion wrote:
Why do you keep creating more threads?


Please explain why you think he shouldn't. Then limp your scared ass back to your propoganda machine with the understanding that the goons suprisingly do not own the EvE General fourm.

Can you point out to me this "propaganda machine" we have? I seem to have missed it back out the http://goonfleet.com forum.


Given your lack of awareness to the above, I would suggest starting with Goon Education 101 first.
Karadion
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#18 - 2012-02-03 12:08:07 UTC
Shazzam Vokanavom wrote:
Karadion wrote:
Shazzam Vokanavom wrote:
Karadion wrote:
Why do you keep creating more threads?


Please explain why you think he shouldn't. Then limp your scared ass back to your propoganda machine with the understanding that the goons suprisingly do not own the EvE General fourm.

Can you point out to me this "propaganda machine" we have? I seem to have missed it back out the http://goonfleet.com forum.


Given your lack of awareness to the above, I would suggest starting with Goon Education 101 first.

That was a very delightful message however you haven't answered my question.
Pelador Rova
No Luck Corp
Kenshin Shogunate.
#19 - 2012-02-03 12:12:41 UTC  |  Edited by: Pelador Rova
To be honest might be more worthwhile investing energies on encouraging people to vote?

( But I guess we need to disect all possible reasons why people are people in EvE to do this. Roll )
Shazzam Vokanavom
Doomheim
#20 - 2012-02-03 12:20:00 UTC  |  Edited by: Shazzam Vokanavom
Karadion wrote:
Shazzam Vokanavom wrote:
Karadion wrote:
Shazzam Vokanavom wrote:
Karadion wrote:
Why do you keep creating more threads?


Please explain why you think he shouldn't. Then limp your scared ass back to your propoganda machine with the understanding that the goons suprisingly do not own the EvE General fourm.

Can you point out to me this "propaganda machine" we have? I seem to have missed it back out the http://goonfleet.com forum.


Given your lack of awareness to the above, I would suggest starting with Goon Education 101 first.

That was a very delightful message however you haven't answered my question.


I'm trying to however considering you don't understand the meaning of the word propoganda, I thought I would go back to base principles.

Given that the Goons claim to be a politically militaristic organisation i would recommend the idea to your superiors if they haven't heard of it. Blink
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