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Andski
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#61 - 2012-02-01 05:19:59 UTC
Hecatonis wrote:
i am posting to inform you that i will not be voting for you in the coming CSM election.

your alliance's complete disregard for any other player outside your sphere of influence, the attitude and behavior of your alliance and thus your own attitude if an affront to civil people, and finally the most disastrous expansion leading to the largest protests i can remember happened wile your alliance was leading the CSM can only been seen at best as incompetence, or at worst a waste of CCP resources that could be spent on better things.

Before anyone accuses me of being butt hurt, i am merely stating what i view as the facts of the matter.

This is my main, not some forum alt, and i stand by my statements.


So what you're saying is that we're controlling your game

Twitter: @EVEAndski

"It's easy to speak for the silent majority. They rarely object to what you put into their mouths."    - Abrazzar
Hecatonis
Imperial Shipment
Amarr Empire
#62 - 2012-02-01 05:23:59 UTC
Andski wrote:
Hecatonis wrote:
i am posting to inform you that i will not be voting for you in the coming CSM election.

your alliance's complete disregard for any other player outside your sphere of influence, the attitude and behavior of your alliance and thus your own attitude if an affront to civil people, and finally the most disastrous expansion leading to the largest protests i can remember happened wile your alliance was leading the CSM can only been seen at best as incompetence, or at worst a waste of CCP resources that could be spent on better things.

Before anyone accuses me of being butt hurt, i am merely stating what i view as the facts of the matter.

This is my main, not some forum alt, and i stand by my statements.


So what you're saying is that we're controlling your game


no, what i am saying is that i do not like how you play our game and i am not going to help you continue to push it into a direction i do not wish it to go.
Kehro Urgus
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#63 - 2012-02-01 05:24:01 UTC
This thread has been totally derailed. It was about kittens in the CQ... bunny slippers would also be nice.Smile

Yeeee! 
Akirei Scytale
Okami Syndicate
#64 - 2012-02-01 05:31:57 UTC
Lyris Nairn wrote:

Google it. But vote for me first.


MFW
Andski
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#65 - 2012-02-01 05:59:44 UTC
Hecatonis wrote:
Andski wrote:
Hecatonis wrote:
i am posting to inform you that i will not be voting for you in the coming CSM election.

your alliance's complete disregard for any other player outside your sphere of influence, the attitude and behavior of your alliance and thus your own attitude if an affront to civil people, and finally the most disastrous expansion leading to the largest protests i can remember happened wile your alliance was leading the CSM can only been seen at best as incompetence, or at worst a waste of CCP resources that could be spent on better things.

Before anyone accuses me of being butt hurt, i am merely stating what i view as the facts of the matter.

This is my main, not some forum alt, and i stand by my statements.


So what you're saying is that we're controlling your game


no, what i am saying is that i do not like how you play our game and i am not going to help you continue to push it into a direction i do not wish it to go.


we will immediately cease this behavior and push the game towards becoming a generic wow-clone in space where all PvP is consensual and scamming is bannable

thanks for letting us know meight oh seven

Twitter: @EVEAndski

"It's easy to speak for the silent majority. They rarely object to what you put into their mouths."    - Abrazzar
Karn Dulake
Doomheim
#66 - 2012-02-01 06:03:18 UTC
Hecatonis wrote:
i am posting to inform you that i will not be voting for you in the coming CSM election.

your alliance's complete disregard for any other player outside your sphere of influence, the attitude and behavior of your alliance and thus your own attitude if an affront to civil people, and finally the most disastrous expansion leading to the largest protests i can remember happened wile your alliance was leading the CSM can only been seen at best as incompetence, or at worst a waste of CCP resources that could be spent on better things.

Before anyone accuses me of being butt hurt, i am merely stating what i view as the facts of the matter.

This is my main, not some forum alt, and i stand by my statements.


Hey im starting to like the Goons but i cant get to friendly as they will only end up asking me to lead them and i dont have the time or beard
I dont normally troll, but when i do i do it on General Discussion.
Hecatonis
Imperial Shipment
Amarr Empire
#67 - 2012-02-01 06:06:24 UTC
Andski wrote:
Hecatonis wrote:
Andski wrote:
Hecatonis wrote:
i am posting to inform you that i will not be voting for you in the coming CSM election.

your alliance's complete disregard for any other player outside your sphere of influence, the attitude and behavior of your alliance and thus your own attitude if an affront to civil people, and finally the most disastrous expansion leading to the largest protests i can remember happened wile your alliance was leading the CSM can only been seen at best as incompetence, or at worst a waste of CCP resources that could be spent on better things.

Before anyone accuses me of being butt hurt, i am merely stating what i view as the facts of the matter.

This is my main, not some forum alt, and i stand by my statements.


So what you're saying is that we're controlling your game


no, what i am saying is that i do not like how you play our game and i am not going to help you continue to push it into a direction i do not wish it to go.


we will immediately cease this behavior and push the game towards becoming a generic wow-clone in space where all PvP is consensual and scamming is bannable

thanks for letting us know meight oh seven


who said that, my dear goonie? if you think that your direction is the antithesis to becoming a "generic wow-clone in space where all PvP is consensual and scamming is bannable" then you just lend evidence that the failure of CSM 6 was cause by incompetence and delusion. Its just another point showing why i will not be voting for any goon.
Andski
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#68 - 2012-02-01 06:24:41 UTC
Hecatonis wrote:
who said that, my dear goonie? if you think that your direction is the antithesis to becoming a "generic wow-clone in space where all PvP is consensual and scamming is bannable" then you just lend evidence that the failure of CSM 6 was cause by incompetence and delusion. Its just another point showing why i will not be voting for any goon.


Please tell me all about the failures of CSM 6 lmao

autism must be awesome

Twitter: @EVEAndski

"It's easy to speak for the silent majority. They rarely object to what you put into their mouths."    - Abrazzar
Akirei Scytale
Okami Syndicate
#69 - 2012-02-01 06:25:19 UTC
CSM6 was the first CSM to really do much of ANYTHING. failure? Roll
Hecatonis
Imperial Shipment
Amarr Empire
#70 - 2012-02-01 06:31:26 UTC
Andski wrote:
Hecatonis wrote:
who said that, my dear goonie? if you think that your direction is the antithesis to becoming a "generic wow-clone in space where all PvP is consensual and scamming is bannable" then you just lend evidence that the failure of CSM 6 was cause by incompetence and delusion. Its just another point showing why i will not be voting for any goon.


Please tell me all about the failures of CSM 6 lmao

autism must be awesome


tell me were they accomplished anything? their failure comes from the fact that they only drain CCP resources and time and bring nothing to the game?
Andski
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#71 - 2012-02-01 06:38:45 UTC
Hecatonis wrote:
Andski wrote:
Hecatonis wrote:
who said that, my dear goonie? if you think that your direction is the antithesis to becoming a "generic wow-clone in space where all PvP is consensual and scamming is bannable" then you just lend evidence that the failure of CSM 6 was cause by incompetence and delusion. Its just another point showing why i will not be voting for any goon.


Please tell me all about the failures of CSM 6 lmao

autism must be awesome


tell me were they accomplished anything? their failure comes from the fact that they only drain CCP resources and time and bring nothing to the game?


http://www.eveonline.com/en/crucible/features/

Twitter: @EVEAndski

"It's easy to speak for the silent majority. They rarely object to what you put into their mouths."    - Abrazzar
NaturalBeast
Pator Tech School
Minmatar Republic
#72 - 2012-02-01 06:48:31 UTC
Confirming OP will make an excellent candidate for 2012.

In other totally unrelated news, cats and dogs started to fall out of the sky. Weird.
Hecatonis
Imperial Shipment
Amarr Empire
#73 - 2012-02-01 06:48:46 UTC
Andski wrote:
Hecatonis wrote:
Andski wrote:
Hecatonis wrote:
who said that, my dear goonie? if you think that your direction is the antithesis to becoming a "generic wow-clone in space where all PvP is consensual and scamming is bannable" then you just lend evidence that the failure of CSM 6 was cause by incompetence and delusion. Its just another point showing why i will not be voting for any goon.


Please tell me all about the failures of CSM 6 lmao

autism must be awesome


tell me were they accomplished anything? their failure comes from the fact that they only drain CCP resources and time and bring nothing to the game?


http://www.eveonline.com/en/crucible/features/


HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

i see your attempt to take credit and raise you truth

CCP Hellmar wrote:
omewhere along the way, I began taking success for granted. As hubris set in, I became less inclined to listen to pleas for caution. Red flags raised by very smart people both at CCP and in the community went unheeded because of my stubborn refusal to allow adversity to gain purchase on our plans. Mistakes, even when they were acknowledged, often went unanalyzed, leaving the door open for them to be repeated.


looks like the CSM got the cold shoulder there. it seems to me that it was the community's involvement that lead to the change

try again
Andski
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#74 - 2012-02-01 06:52:59 UTC
laffo

you are so

dumb

Twitter: @EVEAndski

"It's easy to speak for the silent majority. They rarely object to what you put into their mouths."    - Abrazzar
Andski
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#75 - 2012-02-01 06:58:35 UTC
also i find it hilarious that you blame CSM 6 for the failures of incarna while completely failing to give them any credit for the success of the crucible expansion

Twitter: @EVEAndski

"It's easy to speak for the silent majority. They rarely object to what you put into their mouths."    - Abrazzar
Hecatonis
Imperial Shipment
Amarr Empire
#76 - 2012-02-01 06:58:42 UTC
Andski wrote:
laffo

you are so

dumb


so i take that as you could not find any examples then.

it was a lovely chat, i hope we can do it again sometime.
Akirei Scytale
Okami Syndicate
#77 - 2012-02-01 06:59:38 UTC
Hecatonis wrote:

CCP Hellmar wrote:
omewhere along the way, I began taking success for granted. As hubris set in, I became less inclined to listen to pleas for caution. Red flags raised by very smart people both at CCP and in the community went unheeded because of my stubborn refusal to allow adversity to gain purchase on our plans. Mistakes, even when they were acknowledged, often went unanalyzed, leaving the door open for them to be repeated.


looks like the CSM got the cold shoulder there. it seems to me that it was the community's involvement that lead to the change

try again


You do realize, I hope, that the CSM's only real role is to bring issues to the attention of the devs, which they freaking did, as your own link proves, right? That CSM6 spent most of their time yelling at CCP for how stupid their direction was? That they finally broke down and listened, heard the complaints of the EVE community as a whole filtered through the mouths of the CSM, noticed that it was all accurate, and decided for a change in direction?

You just proved the CSM did its job spectacularly, and you don't even realize it. Please don't breed.
Andski
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#78 - 2012-02-01 07:06:36 UTC
Hecatonis wrote:
Andski wrote:
laffo

you are so

dumb


so i take that as you could not find any examples then.

it was a lovely chat, i hope we can do it again sometime.


you're expecting me to point out which parts CCP was motivated to focus on by the CSM

even if I point them out - capital balancing, hybrid changes, fuel blocks, etc. - you'll just come up with some ~nobody wanted those things~ nonsense

you're like akjon sperguson, just worse

Twitter: @EVEAndski

"It's easy to speak for the silent majority. They rarely object to what you put into their mouths."    - Abrazzar
Hecatonis
Imperial Shipment
Amarr Empire
#79 - 2012-02-01 07:06:45 UTC
Andski wrote:
also i find it hilarious that you blame CSM 6 for the failures of incarna while completely failing to give them any credit for the success of the crucible expansion


i blame them for the failing to do their job and keep the game in a playable state. it took the community to get crucible out of CCP, not the CSM, and that is why i will not vote for any member of CSM 6.

Akirei Scytale wrote:
Hecatonis wrote:

CCP Hellmar wrote:
omewhere along the way, I began taking success for granted. As hubris set in, I became less inclined to listen to pleas for caution. Red flags raised by very smart people both at CCP and in the community went unheeded because of my stubborn refusal to allow adversity to gain purchase on our plans. Mistakes, even when they were acknowledged, often went unanalyzed, leaving the door open for them to be repeated.


looks like the CSM got the cold shoulder there. it seems to me that it was the community's involvement that lead to the change

try again


You do realize, I hope, that the CSM's only real role is to bring issues to the attention of the devs, which they freaking did, as your own link proves, right? That CSM6 spent most of their time yelling at CCP for how stupid their direction was? That they finally broke down and listened, heard the complaints of the EVE community as a whole filtered through the mouths of the CSM, noticed that it was all accurate, and decided for a change in direction?

You just proved the CSM did its job spectacularly, and you don't even realize it. Please don't breed.


if you can point me to were is says that in my link i would be happy to rescind my comment.
Akirei Scytale
Okami Syndicate
#80 - 2012-02-01 07:09:06 UTC
Hecatonis wrote:


if you can point me to were is says that in my link i would be happy to rescind my comment.


"Good things are coming. They always do when you learn from your mistakes. In 2007, we faced a similar crisis of confidence, and it resulted in the creation of the CSM. We’re a better company because of it. In the last months, we’ve taken a hard look at everything, including my leadership. What I can say for now is that we’ve taken action to ensure these mistakes are never repeated. We have reexamined our processes, hired experienced industry professionals for key leadership positions, reassessed our priorities, moved personnel around and, above all else, recognized our limitations."

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