EVE General Discussion

Let me tell you a story how boting corporations make laugh at new "report a bot button" descrived by CCP Pollux in devblog
It is not as fascinating as my last post that made CCP Sreegs' head exploded.

If you decide to run into boting corporation activity you make investment and investment is considerably huge. Usually you end being owner of 20-40 bots.
So imagine mr X reports just 1-4 of your bots. Yes those bots can be in different corporations what is more even different alliances.
CCP make investigation and usually eliminate those inflicted however rest of army very fast replace lost soldiers. Way faster than investigation of CCP that takes place. Remember that report they investigate sepparatly. So instead reading just 1 petition of whole corporation they propably deal with 15. (to be honest never seen any boting corporation deleted in 100%)

Considering i am living in 0.0 for years i know how every alliance that you might adore in tournaments work. Yes most of the isk that are in hands of 0.0 alliances come from such activities.
Payments for rent a sov, ships, modules are just a way to "Wash isk"...500 vs 500 fleets shoot each other, every player got 95% kb efficiency, isk is washed, ships destroyed, CCP happy ships destroyed, bot holders happy isk washed.

So whats my suggestions. How about introduce: "report a corporation", "report a alliance" button. To make CCP look from detailed to more global way.
I still think that CCP should just legalize bots.It is sad to mention how many years i observe bots....in same alliances.....places.....corporations. Yes i live in 0.0 for years......

If u like my story donate me isk so i don;t have to pay for plex using dirty ISK

Just face it, CCP have no intention to fix the botting problem. Period. Every alliance does it, or at least rent out space to botters, my alliance rent out space (albeit in a tiny tiny scale) and so do virtually every other alliance in the game. "It's better that they bot for us than the enemy" is the mindset of everyone.

its like killing a giant parasite, remove the parasite kill the host.

Such option would be cool, but would it be effective

There was a massive laugh off written in an article about this technology and how quickly the botters adapted becuase the end result is that you the user has to understand whats being presented on the screen in the final process and scrambling that would make it unplayable for humans as well.

The most excessive, extreme and expensive methoods in countering any tools developers makes against bots are robots themselves however but no need to have a mouse and keyboard built into one usb solves that problem wtih the right device drivers.
Either way you simply cannot win just by saying HA! we scrambeled the code.

Though this legal battle here was posted and resolve 2 days ago, Jagex's technology was around much longer when first announced and the nuke bot days are still contiuous to this day since they first made the tech and I highly suspect that bot technology will continue to outevolve the measures against them.

Unfoutuantely for EVE the elements in it are so segragated that a camera feeding bot info can easily pick them all out :(.

OP doesn't realize that AAA has bots.

Donate isk to me if you support my post.

North Star Networks
The Kadeshi

Noted before this char gets booted to an NPC corporation. We have just had a 0.0 resident admit that their ALLIANCE is renting out space to bots. I call for an investigation by an independent entity (preferably a contract with experience in investigating cybercrime) into these allegations.

I would just like an option to add some text to our report. Like actions that lead us to report them, others doing the same action in the same system.... etc.

How I laught (sic) at Botting Alliances:

http://eve.battleclinic.com/killboard/killmail.php?id=15095547

O M G !!! A Carebear killed a miner !!!!!!!

I actually used the reporting tool, THEN ganked so CCP could actually see the Pod dangling and doing the old back and forth for an hour. Bot and Alts are gone and banned.

You want me to mention where and which corporations using bots
Very simple. You do not have to be a CCP. Just check unusual activity of NPC's being shoot then record corporation that is owner or appear in local.

Examples of systems and corporation in Esoteria (you can make your own investigation in every region) that are 100% involved into bot'ing business:

BY-MSY Stainless. over 10k npc;s killed last 24h - as i observe it normal - usually made by couple of 12h per day chars using interesting programms.
E1UU-3 Stainless. 5k npc's killed last 24h - a little bit less as security lvl lover, but still ok for those chars who got no space to kill in next system.
D-PNP9 Stainless 6k npc's killed last 24h - same interesting character and programs activity
6EK-BV Stainless 3k npc's killed last 24h- maybe real players ;) or mining bots?
G-YZUX 7k npc's killed last 24h Stainless - system with station, so perfect for bots, they warp in and back - few chars, but how well organised ;)
CZ6U-1 700 rats killed - look like some real players appear here - hurray!, humans
P-3XVV 1800 rats killed - someone working on upgrading this system, bot or not bot ?
A1-AUH 300 rats killed - way to crowded system to place bots. isn't it
F-UVBV Desman Alliance 14k npc's killed last 24h - i call it nice bot'ing system,
V-XANH Desman Alliance 11k npc's killed last 24h - next artificial intelligence system, bot'ing system,
TEIZ-C-Y Stainless 3k npc;s killed last 24h - it is possible it belongs to real players, but activity 18h per day - 6h to sleep, wink wink
OIOM-YStainless 3k npc;s killed last 24h - it is possible it belongs to real players., but activity 24h per day - no time to sleep, wink wink
IR-FDV - empty
NIZJ-0 - Inver Brass I-BRA, BSX Industries - 7k Npc's killed last 24h - they bot for last 3 years so let them bot :P who cares.
6-TYRX - empty
Q1-R7K - empty
6-TYRX - empty
IR-FDV - empty
V1ZC-S - empty
J-RVGD - just 1.5k npc's killed last 24 - humans were here probably !!!
111-F1 - 800 npc's killed last 24h - hidding in deep space real players
H-T40Z - 1.4k npc's killed last 24h - looks like 3 systems for players, not surprised that in worst sec lvl, bots need good conditions
Q0OH-V - 1.1 k npc's killed last 24h Stain Empire , bad system for bots (check map)
XKZ8-H - empty
Z-Y9C3 - 3.8k npc's killed last 24h C0VEN HOLDING COMPANY activity bots were here :>
CR-0E5 - 5k npc's killed last 24h C0VEN HOLDING COMPANY - i smell bots just of activity
16P-PX - 800 npc's killed last 24h - system for human operators with station.
WX-6UX 700 npc's killed last 24h - well if humans next door
BZ-0GW 3,8k npc's killed last 24h - C0VEN HOLDING COMPANY - capital of alliance so might be crowded but i bet some bots appear here :)
QS-530 2.4k npc's killed last 24h - looks like human activity considering graphs of jumps and kills
VR-YRV 5k npc's killed last 24h C0VEN HOLDING COMPANY - long live bots - activity definitely makes me think bots there
X-HISR -- empty
DL-CDY - empty
29YH-V - empty
LG-RO2 5.6k npc;s killed last 24h ROL.Citizens ROL.C, Astral Industry Service - i smell bots
02V-BK - empty
JD-TYH - empty
A5MT-B - 2k npc;s killed last 24h - nice example of solo bot ;) 24h per day activity
SN9S-N - empty
Z-MO29 - empty
G-JC9R - empty
DIBH-Q - empty
H-YHYM - empty
G-4H4C - empty
HHE5-L 1k npc's killed last 24h ROMANIAN-LEGION, ROMANIA Renegades - humans over!
YAP-TN 300 npc's killed last 24h ROMANIAN-LEGION, ROMANIA Renegades - humans over!
PE-H02 200 npc's killed last 24h ROMANIAN-LEGION, ROMANIA Renegades - small human activity
DNEP-Y - empty
YRV-MZ 2.6k npc's killed last 24h Inver Brass I-BRA, BSX Industries - nice bot activity - perfect place for bots, so deep in space system
KSM-1T - empty
QFIU-K - 650 npc's killed last 24h - human ?
2R-KLH - empty
6SB-BN - 6.4k npc;s killed last 24h - C0VEN HOLDING COMPANY- i bet bots are here !!!
B1D-KU - empty
MS2-V8 - empty
R-ARKN - empty
P9F-ZG - 1.4k npc;s killed last 24h - looks like human activity
PK-PHZ - empty
L-M6JK - 2.3k npc's killed last 24h Inver Brass I-BRA, BSX Industries - i smell bots
QFGB-E 7.3k npcs' killed last 24h C0VEN HOLDING COMPANY - guys bots here for sure!!!
7P-J38 8.4k npc's killed last 24h Inver Brass I-BRA, BSX Industries - i call it nice boti'ng!
WT-2J9 - empty
C-PEWN 2.3k npc's killed last 24h - maybe humans
So let me make some statistics. I spend 30 minutes to check half of map of 1 region Esoteria
In 63 systems I checked
26 systems are empty
13 systems looks like occupied by players
24 occupied by bots

What makes me sad those 13 systems occupied by players are usually higher security so with worse kind of cosmic complexes. Well lets give better look on those players who use bots.
26 systems are empty as no one interested in being close to bots or bot owners keep away players from automatic lucrative systems. Lets be honest, some systems are to easy to travel (random pve gangs) so hard to make isk there.

If any CCP is really interested in fighting vs bots he should easily make my work and get rid of those activities that can see pretty much every player in Eve. I believe there is teleport button possible for any CCP to any place in space.
I can make such analysis in every region :P i believe each and every of you who got some 0.0 experience can do same.
CCP for sure got tools and sources :) So.....they made buttons so we need to travel 40 jumps from Jita get killed 4 times in border gate camps to see those players who use bots to report them......what if....
...bots make petitions to petition new bots so CCP can deal with those petitions.....

Check just those analysis in Esoteria. Isn't it sad that 3 year alliance C0VEN and their pet Inver Brass I-BRA, is involved in artificial intelligence activity. Considering their pvp activity and no tournament activity i am not surprised.
Just one single huge plus to ROMANIAN-LEGION