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Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
#21 - 2012-01-29 23:51:04 UTC
Rory Orlenard wrote:
I went to DRF and goons looking for bots..found Nidhoggers with only one T3 and one BS farming on the back side of xDeathx.
Goons all i found was pilots trying to shoot me. If you have pointers on finding the bots - share them please.

Heh. Non-blues are shoot on sight. Did you get killed or did you manage to excape the evil swarm?

Triggered by: Wars of Sovless Agression, Bending the Knee, Twisting the Knife, Eating Sov Wheaties, Bombless Bombers, Fizzlesov, Interceptor Fleets, Running Away, GhostTime Vuln, Renters, Bombs, Bubbles ?
Herping yourDerp
Tribal Liberation Force
Minmatar Republic
#22 - 2012-01-30 01:11:25 UTC
just ban everyone in nullsec
Rory Orlenard
Eve Pilots Revolutionary Army
#23 - 2012-01-30 04:08:51 UTC
Kell Tarhun wrote:
You want me to mention where and which corporations using bots
Very simple. You do not have to be a CCP. Just check unusual activity of NPC's being shoot then record corporation that is owner or appear in local.

Examples of systems and corporation in Esoteria (you can make your own investigation in every region) that are 100% involved into bot'ing business:

BY-MSY Stainless. over 10k npc;s killed last 24h - as i observe it normal - usually made by couple of 12h per day chars using interesting programms.
E1UU-3 Stainless. 5k npc's killed last 24h - a little bit less as security lvl lover, but still ok for those chars who got no space to kill in next system.
D-PNP9 Stainless 6k npc's killed last 24h - same interesting character and programs activity
6EK-BV Stainless 3k npc's killed last 24h- maybe real players ;) or mining bots?
G-YZUX 7k npc's killed last 24h Stainless - system with station, so perfect for bots, they warp in and back - few chars, but how well organised ;)
CZ6U-1 700 rats killed - look like some real players appear here - hurray!, humans
P-3XVV 1800 rats killed - someone working on upgrading this system, bot or not bot ?
A1-AUH 300 rats killed - way to crowded system to place bots. isn't it
F-UVBV Desman Alliance 14k npc's killed last 24h - i call it nice bot'ing system,
V-XANH Desman Alliance 11k npc's killed last 24h - next artificial intelligence system, bot'ing system,
TEIZ-C-Y Stainless 3k npc;s killed last 24h - it is possible it belongs to real players, but activity 18h per day - 6h to sleep, wink wink
OIOM-YStainless 3k npc;s killed last 24h - it is possible it belongs to real players., but activity 24h per day - no time to sleep, wink wink
IR-FDV - empty
NIZJ-0 - Inver Brass I-BRA, BSX Industries - 7k Npc's killed last 24h - they bot for last 3 years so let them bot :P who cares.
6-TYRX - empty
Q1-R7K - empty
6-TYRX - empty
IR-FDV - empty
V1ZC-S - empty
J-RVGD - just 1.5k npc's killed last 24 - humans were here probably !!!
111-F1 - 800 npc's killed last 24h - hidding in deep space real players
H-T40Z - 1.4k npc's killed last 24h - looks like 3 systems for players, not surprised that in worst sec lvl, bots need good conditions
Q0OH-V - 1.1 k npc's killed last 24h Stain Empire , bad system for bots (check map)
XKZ8-H - empty
Z-Y9C3 - 3.8k npc's killed last 24h C0VEN HOLDING COMPANY activity bots were here :>
CR-0E5 - 5k npc's killed last 24h C0VEN HOLDING COMPANY - i smell bots just of activity
16P-PX - 800 npc's killed last 24h - system for human operators with station.
WX-6UX 700 npc's killed last 24h - well if humans next door
BZ-0GW 3,8k npc's killed last 24h - C0VEN HOLDING COMPANY - capital of alliance so might be crowded but i bet some bots appear here :)
QS-530 2.4k npc's killed last 24h - looks like human activity considering graphs of jumps and kills
VR-YRV 5k npc's killed last 24h C0VEN HOLDING COMPANY - long live bots - activity definitely makes me think bots there
X-HISR -- empty
DL-CDY - empty
29YH-V - empty
LG-RO2 5.6k npc;s killed last 24h ROL.Citizens ROL.C, Astral Industry Service - i smell bots
02V-BK - empty
JD-TYH - empty
A5MT-B - 2k npc;s killed last 24h - nice example of solo bot ;) 24h per day activity
SN9S-N - empty
Z-MO29 - empty
G-JC9R - empty
DIBH-Q - empty
H-YHYM - empty
G-4H4C - empty
HHE5-L 1k npc's killed last 24h ROMANIAN-LEGION, ROMANIA Renegades - humans over!
YAP-TN 300 npc's killed last 24h ROMANIAN-LEGION, ROMANIA Renegades - humans over!
PE-H02 200 npc's killed last 24h ROMANIAN-LEGION, ROMANIA Renegades - small human activity
DNEP-Y - empty
YRV-MZ 2.6k npc's killed last 24h Inver Brass I-BRA, BSX Industries - nice bot activity - perfect place for bots, so deep in space system
KSM-1T - empty
QFIU-K - 650 npc's killed last 24h - human ?
2R-KLH - empty
6SB-BN - 6.4k npc;s killed last 24h - C0VEN HOLDING COMPANY- i bet bots are here !!!
B1D-KU - empty
MS2-V8 - empty
R-ARKN - empty
P9F-ZG - 1.4k npc;s killed last 24h - looks like human activity
PK-PHZ - empty
L-M6JK - 2.3k npc's killed last 24h Inver Brass I-BRA, BSX Industries - i smell bots
QFGB-E 7.3k npcs' killed last 24h C0VEN HOLDING COMPANY - guys bots here for sure!!!
7P-J38 8.4k npc's killed last 24h Inver Brass I-BRA, BSX Industries - i call it nice boti'ng!
WT-2J9 - empty
C-PEWN 2.3k npc's killed last 24h - maybe humans
So let me make some statistics. I spend 30 minutes to check half of map of 1 region Esoteria
In 63 systems I checked
26 systems are empty
13 systems looks like occupied by players
24 occupied by bots


I went to BY-MSY , what i found was a deadend system ( one gate) with 8 Mobile Large Warp Disruptors placed on the gate.
While slowboating thru the bubbles i Dscan'd a Thanatos supported by 2 BS's and a crapton of npc wrecks. 7 pilots showed on local.

After a few minutes a Tengu came to the gate where i was still slowboating in my cloaked rookie ship - looked around and left.

First the 2 BS's went off Dscan and then the Thantos dropped off scan as local dropped to 4. No one came to salvage all those wrecks. No more wrecks showed up.

Guess i'll hang out and try to understand what is going on here ..no one seems to interested in me.
Karthwritte
Trouble Seekers Incorporated
#24 - 2012-01-30 04:30:24 UTC
The only way to CCP kill bots its to make no gameplay too easy or repetitive. That way the only thing bots could do its ferry around hisec. Unless someone makes a EVE AI player and Skynet destroy us all...
Tepir
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#25 - 2012-01-30 05:09:19 UTC
i forgot now a name of system, but it was A drone system, dead end. I jumped in and i counted 12 Large Syndicate bubles around the gate. Thats like over a bil just to buble a gate. And they did pretty good job doin it. And best part only one guy was inside it. System was w/o station.

If ccp realy wants they can easily find bots via Ip adress activity, show where they are active and what are they doin. Realy not hard at all.

But fact is, thousands of bots need thousands of plexes each month = ccp like that
W/o Bots economy would crash! thats a pure fact! w/o simple price for a harbinger would go sky high! High sec mission runners would be threatened i think in this way because they dont lose many ships , but people who play this game purely for pvpv will suffer greatly. Not to mention that plex would jump a to a bilion a piece.

I dont see what CCP can do here..... boters are like italian mafia. Pay a fine and enjoj ur life while it last. Removing all botters at same time would cause lethal punch to our Economy.


Read: i Dont support botters, i am not defending them in any way . Im lowsec based. All i care is cheap bc's . But pandara's box is opened.
Xolve
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
#26 - 2012-01-30 06:25:50 UTC
Want to get rid of botting, get rid of PLEX.

Don't want to do that, do you?
Kell Tarhun
Neptunis
#27 - 2012-02-09 15:00:13 UTC
Xolve wrote:
Want to get rid of botting, get rid of PLEX.

Don't want to do that, do you?


Well problem is not only bots using plex but real players too. So observing plex market gives pretty much no information about bots.
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