Player Features and Ideas Discussion

Uh, when have CCP ever said that?

486 pages of a small handful of mewling candyasses who refuse to quit crying. HTFU.

Sigh. Everyone acknowledges that cloaky camping is not ideal, but every single time when CCP discusses it, they point out that the problem that nullsec is suppose to be dangerous and they are not happy with the intel, and thus safety afforded by local and view cloaky camping as a counter to that.

Do you really think, that if it was as simple as making cloaks turn off after some time, CCP might have gotten around to fixing it sometime in the last decade? Just kept slipping their mind, huh? If you are going with that, you must be more simple than your name would lead one to believe.

You are suppose to be at risk. You are not suppose to be able to 100% secure your space. It's all working as intended. Feel free to continue to impotently whine on these forums, but there is not going to be a fix for cloaky camping that is so one-side and carebear friendly as to make nullsec PvE near invulnerable. A fix, if and when it ever comes, will put some risk into your nullsec grinding, not just make the "bad people" who scare you go away, and that is something this game desperately needs at this point.

-1 - there is no problem to be solved, that is why CCP has done nothing about it in the 7 years I have been in this game.

Going with my standard here, you cannot see them, you cannot scan them, how do you know the player controlling that ship is AFK?


Been in EvE since 2010 and people have been complaining about AFK cloakers since I started.
Yes you are right cap use would be simple to do, and over the over the years it has been suggested many times. Other people have suggested timers of one sort or another, heat build up in the module from use ultimately leading to failure due to overheating. Changing the probes back to a time when you could scan cloaked ships or adding a new type of probe that can only detect cloaked ships. And yet others have gone with a module or probes that can scan for heat with the logic being that any ship and it's systems would create heat and that heat could be easily detected against the cold backdrop of empty space. Still others have suggested magnetic anomaly detection systems like those used to hunt submarines in real life. So let us look at this from a different perspective.
Several of these would be extremely simple to implement (cap and heat specifically).
People have been suggesting them for all my time in the game.
Any or all of them would control this AFK cloaking scourge you speak of.
Despite how easy many of these would be to implement CCP has chosen NOT to do any of them.
Simple elementary level logic dictates that there is only one answer here.

CCP DOES not consider AFK cloaking to be a problem they need to solve. Which gets me back to where I started -1 to your idea it simply is not needed.


And I for one hope they never change it because messing with people minds leads to mistakes that you can capitalize on, and capitalizing on those mistakes leads to really pretty explosions in space. Besides it is just plain fun to sit in a harmless ship and scare the hell out of these nul sec players and then watch them scurry away like mice or cockroaches when you turn on the lights.

Congrats, you have submiited an idea that has been submitted 999,999 times before and so we hit the millionth time mark!

btw....

YOU: Dear CCP, i have a great anti-camper idea !

CCP: Whatever it is the answer is NO !

Weekend. And these are no longer the proper forums.
Isd's may be more focused on the discord forums.

You KNOW there is a dedicated thread for this and you post like a completely blinkered m0r0n?

Oh god look we have another one... yes and ive posted there afterwards, and i cant close threads smart ass... but you probably was TOO stupid to go look. Yet another eve troll who has nothing better to do, but to vent is child anger issues on forums. whats new. Oh its a Goon too #expected

OP you have failed to state what exactly is the problem with the Cloacking modules?
Is it all the cloacking modules? or maybe just the covops? how about combat recon ships?

Please articulate your reasoning.

If any change is needed.... it's to add an automatic log-off timer after a certain amount of activity. (20 minutes maybe).

I can't think of a valid reason why being logged on without moving your mouse or hitting a keyboard key every 20 minutes would be necessary. If the guy wants to sit cloaked while he's market trading on his other account and just look at the other screen every now and then... great. He's actively creating the deterrent.

But an inactivity log off hurts nobody as far as I can tell.

And pray tell...how are they going to make this determination IF THEY ARE AFK? If there is nobody there they can't gather much intel now can they.

If they want to degrade the value of the system they have to stop you from utilizing that system. That can be countered. Ratting in a group, mining in a group. Having both going on at the same time so one group can support the other.



If they aren't at the keyboard then what is the problem? Oh right, you can't tell and that level of uncertainty means you have absolutely zero recourse. None at all. You can't rat in a group and switch up your fit to be more pvp combat effective. Nope, in fact the fitting window no longer works once an AFK camper is in system.



Or you could rat in a group in fleet.



How is flying in a fleet of PvP ships and ratting stupid if you have an AFK cloaker there? If you own an entire region how is moving systems stupid? It is unlikely they are going to take just one system...and hey, if they do fantastic now I can get in a fleet and have a fight.

The real problem here is, Mike, you simply want to rat as if you were playing on Sisi...frankly you should just rat there.